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Title: Violent Haunting/Occult Activity


Mecheart - August 12, 2011 08:58 PM (GMT)





Since the arson of a neighboring home I have been dealing with a wide range of both occult corporeal vandalism/veiled threats, and demonic activity--inside of a home and amidst the surrounding yards/property. While I have dealt--head on--with such occurrences in the past, this particular situation has begun to exhuast my physical, mental and emotional fortitude.

The property in question is a five decade old development constructed upon former fields--it is rural, a few miles outside a medium size city. I have attempted in depth research into the grounds--approximately seventy to one hundred acres--with little success.

Much of the activity apparently initiated after the burning of the neighboring house--declared arson by local and state police. Prior to the arson, small evidence of paranormal behaviors was present, however easily ignored, drowned out against the backdrop of the daily mundane.

The morning of the arson, firefighters discovered 'The devil lives here' carved into the front door of the burnt home. Blood was found in large quantity inside the premises--on the entryway landing. After the demolition of the charred home, I discovered a symbol painted on a neighbor's outbuilding, which google images revealed to be a satanic cross.

Seven weeks have passed since the arson. I have, at the request of my family--who actually live in the development, been standing watch every night, all night since the odd and threatening occurrences began. One week after the arson, someone ripped siding off my family's home, placed and lit a candle beneath my parents' bedroom, in a crawlspace. Around the neighborhood, similar vandalism has been visited on empty, or for sale homes as well. Police seem baffled--if not very wary of entering the development after sundown.

Over the seven weeks I have stood the watch many inexplicable events have transpired. Shadow forms rise from the now vacant lot where the home was burned. These shadowy entities also seem to inhabit ancient evergreen trees planted in rows to divide the many properties. A man has been seen--by several witnesses--who is able to move with preternatural speed. One witness described 'his' motion as "running so fast his feet did not touch the ground." Disks of darkness or shadow have been seen floating around homes--approximately the size of apples or teacup saucers. Disembodied voices have spoken to a number of people, myself included. Loud noises have been heard almost every night, such as forceful banging on homes--on doors, windows and outbuildings, but when one goes to investigate, nothing corporeal is present. Dogs bark viciously at nothing, at many different windows around the house throughout the night. When sitting outside, the sound of busy human activity is audible in homes--when no one is present, or those home are asleep.

Most disturbing, approximately three weeks ago, I ran to investigate a prowler in my parents' yard, near a line of evergreen trees. A two to three pound stone was hurled at me with force sufficient to bury itself halfway into the ground. I thoroughly investigated the surrounding area--nobody was present. Rationally, in order to strike the ground--inches from me--with such force, the rock must have been thrown from the top of one of several tall pines.

The violence seems to be escalating. One woman was attacked by 'something' that caused all of her major muscle groups to harden, and a night before that, something choked her, in her bed while her husband held her.

Once again, I had run around the outside back of my parents' home to investigate a seemingly human strike against their back door. Suddenly, I felt something embrace by torso--nothing was their. I exhaled, stiffened my stomach muscles, and something, as if a vice, squeezed both sides of my ribcage. Breath knocked out of me, I went inside. My father examined my torso, found red marks in the shape of fingerprints on either side of my ribs.

As I have stated, this activity--both human and otherwise--has been steadily increasing, becoming more violent, since the arson of a nearby home and the attack on my parents' house. I have sat the watch all night, every night since--with the intent mostly of identifying a corporeal criminal responsible for the vandalism and possibly the arson. My family dreads sundown, the neighborhood is nightly terrorized, and the police are of little use; someone from the development calls them every night to report prowlers or strange noises, and I believe they have tired of it. They are a very small department responsible for patrol of a large rural area.

My parents plan to have their own home blessed. I have encouraged this, however I fear that their pastor may not have the proper training to deal with such presences, and thus may provoke or worse, stir up the entity or entities responsible to greater violent activity.

I am an ex-soldier. I have encountered such presences in the past, and have been highly sensitive to malevolence of this kind since childhood. However, I am one man who is trying to protect his loved ones, their friends and others terrorized for nearly two months by this activity. Additionally, there is the matter of the human element involved--the arsonist and the vandals. In regards to this I have concluded the likelihood is good that a satanic cult of some variety is active either within the neighborhood or on a bordering property. This realization only compounds the problem, and adds immeasurably to the difficulty of providing security for those I love most.

With this post, I hope to glean from the thoughts of others some guidance for proceeding forward to a final resolution of the situation at hand. My family has begun house shopping, feeling that moving out of the development is the sole solution. As I have stated, I have experience in dealing with such matters and will sift carefully through all responses to this post, however this time my family is involved, I have worn myself down over seven weeks chasing shadow prowlers, and some aid in the form of ideas for a solution would be highly welcomed and appreciated.

Thank You.



























DF Admin KJ - August 13, 2011 03:53 AM (GMT)
Hi Mecheart, and welcome to the forum. There is strength in numbers, and if a community support group can be formed and utilized with enough people working together - especially if they are from a strong church foundation - then there is hope. And I agree that whoever performs the blessing of your family's home should be properly versed in conducting such a blessing. However, I also realize just how dangerous satanic cult activity can be, and what you describe seems to be an extreme example of this.

Please also send me a private message, and we will discuss your situation in greater detail. My prayers are with you, and I will endeavor to do what I can to advise and help you.
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Aneaglesangel - August 13, 2011 03:35 PM (GMT)
Hugs hon! Welcome aboard! I'm so sorry to hear about what you and your family are going through. I know just how tough it can be to deal with cult related activity. I unfortunately ran into some dead cult members who had killed in their lives, and it was nothing nice.

It did take me a lot of time to get rid of the particular spirits involved and it was very scary for my son and his girlfriend. But at the same time, I didn't have living cult members to attack or burn down my home.

I think you and your family are in a very bad situation, but sticking together the way you all have is the best course of action. I'm so glad you have that unity!! I'm also glad you have the neighborhood on your side, together you are a stronger force. I love Keith's idea of a community group.

There's a lot of weight on your shoulders now and hopefully a community group will take some of that off you. Any time you need to talk about the things going on, you just make yourself at home here. Discussing and learning more about how to protect yourself is a good thing. Getting things off your chest, being encouraged and listened to, that's even better! So sending you and your family lots of love and support! Hugs!!

Mecheart - August 13, 2011 09:24 PM (GMT)
Thank you for your kindness and replies...my family will appreciate them.

Last night was another long one--at least the moon was bright and overhead until dawn. Someone--corporeal I am sure--took a shot at my parents' home, either with a rapid firing airgun, or a silenced shotgun; several pellet/BB sized indentations were found near my brother's window in the siding, following the sound of impact.

Activity was unusually busy in the now empty lot where the neighboring home was burned. Shadow forms as per the norm, but also more corporeal looking 'men'. While on patrol I detected a sewage smell around the back of my parents' home, which rapidly dissipated. I had also failed to mention in my original post, that on several occasions, outside, we have smelled a noxious odor which I had at first believed to be kerosene, but later realized was diesel fuel. Very nerve-wracking considering the recent nearby arson.

I managed some decent rest today, and am gearing up for nightfall. Almost called the police again, but their response time last week was forty-five minutes. At this rate, I will be standing the watch in snow. My parents' home is scheduled to be blessed next week however, many of their neighbors have had similar inexplicable experiences--both inside and out of their homes. Hoping to get back to my own, mundane life asap...but I will not abandon my family. I am also beginning to hope they move, and soon.

Mecheart - August 15, 2011 07:06 AM (GMT)






Somewhat of a slower night.

It has been difficult to maintain over many weeks my sense of readiness and energy level--let alone the confidence to believe what has happened really did, especially after periods without activity such as right now.

Earlier in the day a young adult was riding a kid's dirtbike up and down the street in front of my parents' home. He was on every pass staring down my parents with a look of exteme hatred--they had never seen him in the neighborhood before two days ago. My father feared he was a gang banger--they've experienced gang activity in the past in the area--and so I prepared for the worse, for physical confrontation.

It's the combination of paranormal aggrivation at night, suspected satanic activity, and fear of gang violence that is just stressing everyone to the point of failing health. With great relief, the suspected gang member did not trespass onto my parents' property, and thus I did not have to take direct action. What a relief. I have been out of the military for a number of years, and had not felt so on edge since my last deployment. I keep trying to tell myself that this is a rural neighborhood...not a warzone and certanly not a pit of demon conjuring satanists--but more often than not, it seems so.

I will soldier on.

























DF Admin KJ - August 17, 2011 02:37 AM (GMT)
Again, there is strength in numbers. One thing that cowardly attackers like this look for in their victims, is vulnerability through isolation. Sandra and I know this from personal experience. Is there any way the residents in your vicinity could get together with you and form a neighborhood support group? This is one suggestion I would personally try, as well as working closer with local law enforcement.

Mecheart - August 19, 2011 07:03 PM (GMT)







Thanks again for the sincere suggestions.


A pastor and several congregation members blessed my parents' home yesterday. My mother had great faith in the effectiveness of the blessing-- she and my sister prayed with the pastor, expecting the act in and of itself to cease the paranormal side of this increasingly desperate situation. However, paranormal occurrences continue nightly--some activity now more sinister than ever previously experienced.

The neighborhood had been united during the first few weeks of the crisis. Within the last few weeks, certain neighbors began to spread rumors, specifically after the questioning by police of one neighbor's eleven year old daughter for a series of small fires she had been caught setting in close proximity to another empty home. Apparently, the mother is attempting to protect her child by redirecting accusations at my mother and other neighbors. Thus, a united neighborhood front has been raised, however the so called new watch group has aligned against my parents and their closest friends. The tension is palpable; everyone is stressed terribly and terrified.

I called the local police once again two nights past after someone shot a high velocity projectile at my parents' home. The projectile impacted with force sufficient to buckle in their kitchen wall--which my mother witnessed while fixing a cup of coffee. She later said the interior paneling was pushed in several inches at time of impact. I was standing on their front porch at the time, unaware that the projectile missed me by a few feet.

The police responded however, the officer was highly skeptical as he could not locate a bullet or arrow or any other projectile. Also, moments after the shooting incident, siding was kicked in at the back of my parents' home, and other vandalism occurred elsewhere around the neighborhood that same night.

Further, I learned of a second home fire--also declared arson by state police--and this second home was also demolished, albeit in a much quieter fashion.

UPDATE:

I now believe that a satanic cult/witch of some kind, is directing negative energy/has conjured something and has sicked "it" on my mother or family as a whole. When my parents' home was first vandalized, siding was ripped off the rear area of their home in a six foot swath, which laid bare a crawl space. A red candle was placed in the earth beneath their bedrooom floor in the crawlspace and lit. Does anyone have a solid idea of what kind of ritual the attacker(s) might have been attempting? Luckily, and this was before I began my nightly watch, their two Jack Russells alerted my mother and seemingly interrupted whatever the sick SOBs were out to do.

I wish the police were taking all of this more seriously. Several residents of the neighborhood are on the local police departments "no respond" list because they have repeatedly reported the sound of someone or something crawling in crawlspaces beneath their homes. My parents used to think them somewhat loony, but no longer, after all that has happened.

My mother, bless her, wants to stay and fight--she loves the country setting and large yard upon which sits their home, and she has spent seven years making it "her" home. I am torn. Some nights I think I can protect them, even rid their property of all threats; other nights I get so stressed I vomit and want them to flee at dawn. My father I fear is close to a heart attack. He works hard, then must come home to nightly new reports of vandalism and occult phenomena. Even their dogs are worn to the point of collapse.

As far as pranormal activity is concerned, much has continued to manifest--far too much to report in a few paragraphs, thus I will mention what concerns me most. I asked my mother to throw away an anatomically correct infant doll which she had been displaying on her nightstand in honor of a newborn niece she lost some years ago, after she was violently attacked one recent night in her bed. Some "force" twisted her legs to the point of nearly rending her muscles, all while I was on patrol outside their home. This event was one example which led me to suspect a neighbor who is a former pagan motorcycle gang member and self declared witch, who claims the power to cast curses and to kill with them. This event was not the first time my mother was attacked in her sleep.

I am a christian. I have strong faith however I do not subscribe to the brand of evangelical belief held by those who blessed my parents' home. I feel much remorse for my mother for whom this house blessing was to be her spiritual salvation in this time of crisis. On the dark spiritual side of this situation, I have become unsure of what to do in order to completely stop or at least defend against these attacks by entities.

UPDATE:

The top of an unwound roll of carpet was discovered buried in the ground beneath the first home that was burned. According to reliable sources, the construction crew that demolished the burned home attempted to remove the buried object with their Bobcat backhoe, as they were paid to level the property after the demolition however, they supposedly encountered something which frightened them off. This source of mine claims the construction foreman thought something was rolled up in the carpet and buried there. I was unaware of all this until recently, but have almost nightly witnessed female like shadows--lithe and petite--rise from the exact area where this bundle of carpet is buried and protruding above ground a few inches.

My parents were the first to call 911 when the home was set on fire. I now suspect that many of the attacks directed against them are for this reason alone--because their 911 call prevented the house from burning to the ground.


So much has happened. I am into my eighth week of all night patrols. Something must change/be done before someone is seriously injured or killed. I am a combat veteran, pride myself on this fact however, my resolve and fortitude have been deeply depleted.

Any further advice would be deeply, thankfully appreciated.

With advanced gratitude,

Mecheart






















Mecheart - August 26, 2011 06:48 AM (GMT)




The situation detailed in my previous posts continues to evolve in an ever worsening manner. My mother has been attacked several times by apparently unseen forces. As mentioned in previous posts, some "thing" attacked her legs while she was sleeping in her bedroom. She was struck in the head, in her kitchen while fixing a cup of coffee--with force sufficient inflict a welt on her forehead, and a black eye. Earlier tonight, while sitting on her front porch, some "thing" again attacked her--causing two deep scratches on her scalp at the top of her forehead. She said she saw two men dressed in KKK robes and masks--but their outfits were black, not white.

Two days ago, my three year old nephew was visiting--my sister also lives in the same development, a block away from my parents' home. He was struck in the head WHILE my sister and I were looking at him; no corporeal assailant was visible. Later, he had breathing trouble and three seizures--he has no prior history of either in his medical record.

The spiritual/paranormal attacks are becoming more violent and frequent. I continue to stand watch every night, and have tried repeatedly to convince my parents to move out of the development. My father however is determined to wait and see, while my mother wants to stay and fight for her home.

On the physical side, break-ins, fires and other vandalism continues around the neighborhood. The police have repeatedly shifted their small nightly presence around to various corners of the development, but I have not spoken with them in at least a week--so no update is available regarding who set the original home fire which seems to have initiated all of this insanity.

After having spoken with several long time residents of the neighborhood, a clearer picture of the goings on has began to emerge. Everyone I have spoken with reports hauntings of some kind within their homes. Many tell me that the entire development is haunted, or that it is 'the development from hell'. I wonder if the development was constructed on some kind of burial ground, or land sacred to some kind of coven or cult?

My mental, emotional and physical fortitude continue to wane. I cannot keep this night watch up forever--its now been eight weeks of all night guard duty, which has not prevented injury to those I care about most. I may have succeeded in running off some gangbangers and satanic weirdos, but whatever force or forces is/are attacking my family members has had some victory.

Having my parents' and sister's homes blessed seems to have made the situation much worse. We are not Catholic but I wonder if a priest might be willing to perform an exorcism of the two properties? Perhaps even that might not work?

I do not know who reads this forum, or how often it is visited, but help of any kind is highly desired.



































grendal - August 27, 2011 12:26 AM (GMT)
Ok, for starters, I am not a clansmen, my girlfriend does have an uncle who is a die hard clansmen (Imperial wizard highest rank in the kkk), aside from going to the rare bbq, I have no affiliation, I only go to show my tolerance of all beliefs no matter how misguided I believe they are. I do not support the clan and I personally want to see it and the hate and terror it represents be done with. That being said, Black robes make perfect sence.

Some klans use all-white robes regardless of rank. For those that use robes of different colors most use:
Purple --- Imperial Wizard
Green --- Grand Dragon
Reddish-purple --- Great Titan
Black --- Knighthawk (security)
Red --- Kleagle
The Knighthawk's black robe is usually shorter so as to allow easier movement.

Some clans use all white regardless of rank.


As for the devil live's here, thats a reference to a dark poem. The poem goes.

If only God could grant me this wish

To break free from all devilish

Matters that bring forth this rage

That if I do not sacrifice every page…

That if I may sacrifice much more

Unknown of what may be in store

For that soul be poor,

Come a knockin’ at the devil’s door

Tis’ now the hour

To swallow fear and devour

I beg of thee

To walk up path, nearby serpent’s tree

Come a knockin’ at the devil’s window

The home of the blackest widow

If a trip one must take

For thine neighbor’s sake

Knock proudly on the devil’s door

Only a piece of him lives near...

Hence the demonic decor...

The Devil Lives Here


Could be in away, how the arsonist felt. Like maybe they don't have any control over it. They might of snapped and are blaming the devil. It might not be occult, it might be the work of a sick individual.

As for the symbol, google images isn't the best place to look up a symbol. If you have pictures I'd be more then happy to look to make a positive confirmation as to what it is.

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Seven weeks have passed since the arson. I have, at the request of my family--who actually live in the development, been standing watch every night, all night since the odd and threatening occurrences began. One week after the arson, someone ripped siding off my family's home, placed and lit a candle beneath my parents' bedroom, in a crawlspace. Around the neighborhood, similar vandalism has been visited on empty, or for sale homes as well. Police seem baffled--if not very wary of entering the development after sundown.


That just screams to me that there's kids doing it. As for being weary of entering a development after sundown that is normal. Long ago here in my town, we had a string of vandalisms including the desicration of corpses done by local occultists..the occultists were harvesting organs from fresh cadavers. They were armed. A squad car stopped a group of several men mutilating a corpse, 3 of the seven men, turned and shot the officer before he could get out of the car with automatics. Guns they made at home in their garage....in total they fired 300 rounds, 175 hit the squad car, the rest enter a neighboring lot where a housing project was, several were injured including a young girl who was struck in the face as she slept. Everyone but the officer survived. The men then ran off, they were captured a few days later. The reason their not going in after dark is people live there, and a shoot out can have dangerous consequences.

There are some claims, but I wonder if it could be human. There have been attacks by human spirits on people, it is documented, rare, but not super rare.

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I am an ex-soldier. I have encountered such presences in the past, and have been highly sensitive to malevolence of this kind since childhood. However, I am one man who is trying to protect his loved ones, their friends and others terrorized for nearly two months by this activity. Additionally, there is the matter of the human element involved--the arsonist and the vandals. In regards to this I have concluded the likelihood is good that a satanic cult of some variety is active either within the neighborhood or on a bordering property. This realization only compounds the problem, and adds immeasurably to the difficulty of providing security for those I love most.


I know this is very hard, an investigator needs to detatch from emotions. By this I mean, filter your emotions reguarding your family, keep them filtered from the investigation. It can cause problems when presented with evidence.

So far, none of this sounds satanic cult to me. I've not heard of any of the normal cult activity. There should be pentagrams, dead aniamls, and it would be in a secluded spot. It sounds like a murder took place in a house, and the house was burned to conseal evidence as to the arsonists intentions and identity. The vandalism is most likely kids...I mean seriously...why steal the siding from a house? There is no market for it, there is no use for it...a career criminal, would aim for something of value. Glass, wires, copper, tools, equipment, things of that nature would be targeted by a professional crook. So this is most likely kids. Just doing it for stupid reasons.

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Last night was another long one--at least the moon was bright and overhead until dawn. Someone--corporeal I am sure--took a shot at my parents' home, either with a rapid firing airgun, or a silenced shotgun; several pellet/BB sized indentations were found near my brother's window in the siding, following the sound of impact.


This might be more a group of people with single shot airguns. Rapid fire airguns are usually expensive. I own several ak-47u style bb guns, rapid fire, they were cheap at 260.00 each. A silenced shotgun is extremely hard to achieve. The only silenced shotgun I am aware of, was built for the military by red jacket fire arms in lousianna. The problem with a shotgun using bbs is the bbs bounce around inside the barrel when fired, they continue to bounce through the silencer, often causing extreme damage to the inside of the silencer. A silencer for a shotgun cannot be purchased, it must be made. The slightest damage to the silencer results in an explosion, rendering the silencer useless. Any shot after can clearly be heard.

A weapon like this would be considered a title 2 weapon, or a NFA weapon. This is mucho mucho years in jail. If the weapon is not registered, then it's improvised, or modified illegally. A title 2 weapon is enforced heavily by the ATF. A title 2 is machine guns, short-barreled rifles and shotguns, heavy weapons and explosive ordnance, NFA firearms include silencers and "any other weapon" (AOW), such as disguised or improvised firearms.

Chances are your looking at several people firing bb guns or maybe a semi auto electric bb gun wich is much cheaper. I got 2 for 120 dollars, but they are only accurate to 50 feet. The higher the accuracy distance the more expensive. Some are accurate to 900 feet but costs are substatial 1000 dollar or more. Most expensive I'm aware of was accurate to 1000 feet and came as a kit and kit only and the cost was 3000 dollars.

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Activity was unusually busy in the now empty lot where the neighboring home was burned. Shadow forms as per the norm, but also more corporeal looking 'men'. While on patrol I detected a sewage smell around the back of my parents' home, which rapidly dissipated. I had also failed to mention in my original post, that on several occasions, outside, we have smelled a noxious odor which I had at first believed to be kerosene, but later realized was diesel fuel. Very nerve-wracking considering the recent nearby arson.


These might be residual smells. Wood absorbs smells....forgive me for the graphicness...but the sewage smell, might of been part of a body burning. The smell of diesel fuel might be what was used to start the fire. The wood could easily of absorbed these smells and when the weather is warm, it releases the scent into the air....during extremely hot days, over the smell of man sweat and body oder, we can smell cigars and whiskey in the house. My great grandpa loved his cubans. Infact he was buried with several boxes of cubans, and he loved his whiskey, so much we still have a homemade white oak hand coopered whiskey barrel he used to make whiskey in...it smells dusty but you can still smell the whiskey.

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I have been out of the military for a number of years, and had not felt so on edge since my last deployment. I keep trying to tell myself that this is a rural neighborhood...not a warzone and certanly not a pit of demon conjuring satanists--but more often than not, it seems so.


I believe this is not true. If this is all paranormal and occult, then this is certainly a warzone...not a war zone with bullets zinging past your head, there is no rata tat tat of ak's, no thuuuuuuuuuuuunk of rpgs, no radio chatter, no explosions, no whistling of incomming mortar fire, no kick of the gun as you fire and scramble for cover, no crunching of sand beneath your feet....this is a new kind of war, a war of the likes that few ever go through. This is a spiritual war. This is a harder war...and sadly, recently I've had lots of cases. People such as yourself who have been to war experiancing paranormal events after comming home. I must ask this question, forgive me, but I've asked it of all my cases. Have you experianced something in the field while deployed, that took a life? Have you while deployed, done something you might of been ordered and might be ashamed of or feel guilty for? I ask this cause I've been told of things they did while in service that might be a contributing factor. I understand if you do not wish to talk about it, and if you don't wanna talk about it openly thats ok, you can message me we can talk about it, and it will not be spoken of. It will stay between you me and the god you believe in unless you explicitly say so...by explicitly I mean you clearly say yes you can share it with others. I have a case where I cannot fully go into detail or name names, I was given permission to share the story but keep it kinda obscured. A indivudal experianced the death of another individual, and they blamed themselves for not saving that individual, and they believed that individual was haunting them, that the individual was trying to make them suffer for not saving them. This turned out to be just the opposite....a peice of evidence that I am not allowed to share file wise, said, I'm at peace...my client broke down, cried for a good 2 hours on my shoulder, and they felt much better after hear it, and since then activity has stopped. They thought also the individual haunting them might also be a demon.

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I called the local police once again two nights past after someone shot a high velocity projectile at my parents' home. The projectile impacted with force sufficient to buckle in their kitchen wall--which my mother witnessed while fixing a cup of coffee. She later said the interior paneling was pushed in several inches at time of impact. I was standing on their front porch at the time, unaware that the projectile missed me by a few feet.


I am familiar with weapons of this power....to not penetrate is something I cannot account for...a damage like this would result from a large calibur round. 50 cal, dp rounds would have this type of powder. There is no point into wich there was penetration wich would leave a conventional firearm out of the running. Only other weapon I can think of is a spud gun, or beer can mortar.

A beer can mortar usually the beer can is filled with cement and fired typically with a power charge, or flamable liquid. Spud gun is sometimes a shoulder fire rocket launcher pretty much that shoots potatoes...you cannot miss a projectile like that flying past you...A police officer wouldn't think of looking at a beer can as a projectile though. I would also need to see this..if you have pictures I'd love to see so I can get an idea better of what you maybe dealing with firearm wise.

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After having spoken with several long time residents of the neighborhood, a clearer picture of the goings on has began to emerge. Everyone I have spoken with reports hauntings of some kind within their homes. Many tell me that the entire development is haunted, or that it is 'the development from hell'. I wonder if the development was constructed on some kind of burial ground, or land sacred to some kind of coven or cult?


I do not wish to be insensitive but I would like to ask what is the racial make up of the development. I ask cause you said it was a field at one point. The clans used to meet in open fields, to light the burning cross, and celebrate what they claim is the glory of the light of god. (Forgive me for any offence this may have towards anyone, I am only throwing out a potential idea.) The clans are extreme, they do not like different races, many people think african american when they think of the KKK. This is wrong, they hate pretty much everyone...the list is long. Asians, italians, hispanics, muslims, catholics, Jewish, russians, polish, communists, anarchists, Jehovah Witnesses, liberals, homosexuals, Irish, scottish and anyone who isn't "pure". I'm italian and I've been bashed around a bit at the yearly bbq but her uncle saw to it I was left alone with the stipulation if I ever broke her heart they'd break my head and hang me. This might of been a peice of property of theirs.

This might of been where the Klavern (local orginzation) held their Klonvocation (gathering), where the Imperial kludd (chaplin) read from the Kloran (ritual book).

Know these words, I'd ask while holding a digital tape recorder is this the spot for the Klavern members to meet for the Klonvocation, your wondering if the Imperial Kludd is going to read from the Kloran again. See what you get...A lot of this doesn't scream demonic to me...it seems like the place is built upon a spot that the KKK used to meet. The house fire might of triggered the memory of the burning of the crosses, getting the spirits riled up...Your family called to get the fire put out the house didn't fully burn, so you denied the glorious light of god, that would explain why the knighthawks have made their presence known your a security threat...and the clan is dealing with it the only way they know how. The clan is first and foremost a terrorist orginization.

The clan is very much alive, and very much still a terrorist unite. On November 14, 2008, an all-white jury of seven men and seven women awarded $1.5 million in compensatory damages and $1 million in punitive damages to plaintiff Jordan Gruver, represented by the Southern Poverty Law Center against the Imperial Klans of America. The ruling found that five IKA members had savagely beaten Gruver, then 16 years old, at a Kentucky county fair in July 2006

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Having my parents' and sister's homes blessed seems to have made the situation much worse. We are not Catholic but I wonder if a priest might be willing to perform an exorcism of the two properties? Perhaps even that might not work?


It can work if they believe it will work, but if it is not inhuman but instead a group of very violent human spirits, it won't work.

Do not take this the wrong way, but do you or your parents fall on any of the list of things the kkk hates? If so it could explain what's going on...also I recommend keeping a journal....dates times....and I would recommend going to the neighbors and asking them to keep a journal dates times, things they have experianced and be very detailed to help show what might be going on, and have them share. If they wish I am more then happy to try to build a page for them, or perhaps Keith might know of a place where they can log onto their computers and type out journal entries for us to work with. A case of this size is not easy to work with. We need more specific details from everyone.

Also where are you in the world? State, town perhaps if your comfortable, if your in rhode island, I'd be more then happy to start on patrol with you. To lend my expertise.

Mecheart - August 27, 2011 08:16 AM (GMT)
We live on the east coast, a couple of states south of your location.

My family heritage is Scottish-German-Native American--blue or green or gray eyed, blonde or brown haired. Racial composition of the neighborhood is overwhelmingly caucasian; an Iranian family, a few Hispanic and African- American families--standard rural racial makeup for the area.

I have previously encountered satanic/occult groups--this area was known for them during the eighties--and yes, some of them were overt practitioners, i.e. they desecrated burial grounds, slew animals and mutilated corpses; others however, were highly covert in their actions. Further supporting evidence of cult behavior is the rampant child neglect if not actual abuse in the development, the ratio of sexual offenders to "normal' folk in the neighborhood, and the gleaned from research numbers of questionable suicides and so called natural deaths in most every home--most every home has been resold many times.

I do believe the seventy or so acres--once a farmer's field--upon which stands the development, was or still is ground sacred to some kind of cult or dark christian sect, or witch's coven. Far, far too many residents with whom I have spoken claim hauntings within their homes or on their properties, and from weeks of strategic questioning of neighbors, I have verified a number of these reports of the paranormal--i.e. one neighbor reports a death in a bordering home, and another reports a haunting related to the behavior of a person who died there.


I am fast on my feet. I see well in the dark--a consequence of years of protecting my eyes during daylight so as to preserve and enhance my vision for ops after sundown. My hearing is excellent, and my response time to these almost nightly "events" has been immediate. Kids have fears. They trip on roots and sink holes when fleeing. They cast shadows without realization. They cannot silently climb seventy foot pines, nor have they been trained to low crawl, or to move when rain water falls from tree boughs, when a central air unit kicks in, or when the wind blows or a train passes in the distance.

The perps I deal with most every night are cunning. "They" are organized, possess means to communicate both by electronic devices and quite skilled bird calls, although many of the birds they imitate are not nocturnal, and "they" have overwatch--i.e. they know exactly when I go indoors, walk a few hundred feet to patrol my sister's home, or to strike the opposite side of my parents' home from where I am positioned. Also, a curfew is in effect in the neighborhood--kids younger than eighteen must be indoors by ten PM. The curfew was never really enforced--until after the first home was burned. Now the rowdiest teens seem to stick to their parents' front porches after dark.

As mentioned, the neighbors on my parents' corner had formed a nightly watch--until they decided to align against my parents' and some of their closest neighborhood friends. Some neighbors with whom my parents had forged strong ties, have suddenly become their seemingly mortal enemies, and community management seems to be on "their" side as well.

Tonight I have pulled back, decided to stay indoors for a couple of hours due to extreme fatigue, which dulls my normally prescient ability to make rational, strategic decisions. It's quiet for the moment.

Don't recall if I mentioned the taking of pictures of myself and my family members by strangers to the neighborhood, but such has happened on several occasions over the last few weeks. Again, the folks taking the pictures looked like gang members. Regardless, they were not law enforcement personnel.

On the paranormal side, I have tried to remain objective. However, when family and friends are involved, emotions intrude irregardless of intent. The violent--incorporeal attacks on my family members--even on children--concern me most. I have traveled to some far flung locales from which I returned with some knowledge of warding or protecting against such unseen "things". Sometimes this knowledge, some also gleaned from my Native American heritage, seems to prevent such violent strikes; other times, nothing prevents it, and the process of "enacting" these protections is exhausting in and of itself.

I have been waging a two front war: both against the seen, the flesh and bone, and the unseen. I have stood alone, face to face against shadow and flesh, but it's not the first time. My aim in visiting this forum was to use as a tool the www for timely, meaningful aid in an ongoing time of extreme personal crisis. I appreciate all the input thus far, and would be ecstatic to have you, Grendal, or anyone else willing to do so, to stand by my side.

However, a standard case for scientific investigation of the paranormal, this is not. People have been hurt. Arsons and possibly several ritual murders have been committed, and my family members are caught right in the middle of no man's land. To ask someone to stand the watch with me, every night, is to knowingly invite someone to put everything they are and know on the line. As the nights grow longer, I cannot help but question whether or not I will see another sunrise, or how many more of them await my viewing.

Thank you for the offer however, and for the input. I will continue to update this post--at the moderator's permission--if for no reason other than so that a record of what I and my family are experiencing might aid someone else, somewhere, someday, who is suffering through a similar situation. As always, advice and input are welcome and highly desired.

Mecheart - August 30, 2011 09:23 PM (GMT)






To quote my brother "I feel like we're living in a Stephen King novel."


And so the weird gets weirder. Some further background: The development in which my parents, sister and brother-in-law live is run by a community management group also responsible for the operation of seventy other housing developments in the same state. 'They' own the ground, i.e. residents of the development pay 'them' rent, but buy their homes--not from a bank or reality company, but from the community management group itself. Further, I recently learned that my parents, who own their home free and clear, have neither a title or a deed to show this ownership, just a sales receipt!

Seven years ago, when my parents first moved into the development, I had been recently married and was home to visit with my new wife. I helped them move from their beloved old house in town, which had become too expensive after the elevation of borough utilities and school taxes. While in the process of moving into their new house in the rural development, they suffered several break-ins and acts of vandalism--all with a ritual/cult bent to them. As I have been doing now--for many weeks--seven years ago I kept a nightly watch and--or so I had thought at the time--chased off the perpetrators and put some healthy fear into their cowardly hearts; the type of fear I was trained to instill both as a Paratrooper and Ranger.

Also at the time of their first moving in to the development, they, myself and my wife, all experienced busy paranormal activity similar to, but less violent than what we have all been experiencing these last nine or so weeks. It's also important to mention that the home they purchased in the development had sat vacant for at least a year after the prior tenants had vacated the premises. Apparently, the prior tenants had abandoned their home to community management, who fixed it up a bit and resold it to my parents sans deed or title.

Furthermore, at the time my parents moved in, I remember seeing people enter an abandoned home beside my parents' new home, and watched as they removed furniture apparently left by neighboring tenants who had also quickly vacated their house. This home of which I speak, is the one that was first set on fire nine weeks ago! After much research. I have learned that many residents of the neighborhood left very suddenly--some so suddenly in the middle of the night, that they left furniture and appliances and even televisions and computers! Is community management actively involved in a campaign of neighborhood terror which they use to frighten off new tenants in order to claim their property and personal belongings? I feel like a has been action star in a bad eighties action movie.
























grendal - August 30, 2011 09:45 PM (GMT)
Sadly it could be quite possible they are the ones causing this. Fire to burn down a house for insurance is not unusual...they can also sell anything left in the house after a certain period of time, but they must make sure they hold onto it for that time and it must be available for the owners to come get it.

So could they be terrorizing people trying to get them to move, could be, they usually charge more then double for the first month, security deposit, first and last months rent. So the question becomes, is this going on in the other developments, if so then it is quite possible they are in charge of the whole thing.

Can't rule it out, but can't say for sure either. If you can rule out the normal, then anything left must be paranormal.

Mecheart - September 1, 2011 11:08 PM (GMT)






Yeah, it's all too uncanny--multifarious to put it lightly.

I've profiled most of the neighbors--spent hours doing it one day, but find myself no closer to a clearer overall understanding than two months ago.


I was taught that when operating in a hostile paranormal environment, when in conflict with violent entities, one does not confront his adversary alone; one must have an "anchor" so to speak--someone to whom you can tether yourself to, even if said "anchor" just sits nearby in a safe location. There really is no one suitable, available at this point to serve in this role for me, so I have decided to get a dog. Perhaps a Rhodesian, a German Shepherd or a large breed Husky. However, in my experience most breeds either ignore the paranormal or cower in its presence. We'll see. I really am loathe to put an animal in harms way though, with all of the physical violence happening as well.

With an hour or so remaining until nightfall, I am gearing up for tonight's patrol. Have not seen the police again for many days (during the night), and so have begun less covert carrying of tools of the trade. I know several state and county policemen, however even they may not fully understand the means I have chosen to keep at hand to protect my family and their friends. A chance I have been, am willing to take.

So I have begun to question my strategy, and certain events in my own past. The arson of the neighboring house was, I still believe, the catalyst for everything that has happened. And yet I cannot help but wonder if indeed I did 'attract' some 'contenders' to this ongoing melee. My father thinks that if we end our nightly watches, the corporeal perps will be able to resume their normal nightly creep show activities, and thus will no longer see us--namely, me, as a threat to their criminal endeavors within the development. A part of me concurs, however there have been nights when I did pull back indoors and the freaks still vandalized my parents' home.

I still do not have the answers. This place remains a hive of busy paranormal activity, and the prowlers still prowl. I think they should move, get the flock outta here. We'll see.
























grendal - September 2, 2011 05:12 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mecheart @ Sep 1 2011, 06:08 PM)
Yeah, it's all too uncanny--multifarious to put it lightly.

I've profiled most of the neighbors--spent hours doing it one day, but find myself no closer to a clearer overall understanding than two months ago.


I was taught that when operating in a hostile paranormal environment, when in conflict with violent entities, one does not confront his adversary alone; one must have an "anchor" so to speak--someone to whom you can tether yourself to, even if said "anchor" just sits nearby in a safe location. There really is no one suitable, available at this point to serve in this role for me, so I have decided to get a dog. Perhaps a Rhodesian, a German Shepherd or a large breed Husky. However, in my experience most breeds either ignore the paranormal or cower in its presence. We'll see. I really am loathe to put an animal in harms way though, with all of the physical violence happening as well.

With an hour or so remaining until nightfall, I am gearing up for tonight's patrol. Have not seen the police again for many days (during the night), and so have begun less covert carrying of tools of the trade. I know several state and county policemen, however even they may not fully understand the means I have chosen to keep at hand to protect my family and their friends. A chance I have been, am willing to take.

So I have begun to question my strategy, and certain events in my own past. The arson of the neighboring house was, I still believe, the catalyst for everything that has happened. And yet I cannot help but wonder if indeed I did 'attract' some 'contenders' to this ongoing melee. My father thinks that if we end our nightly watches, the corporeal perps will be able to resume their normal nightly creep show activities, and thus will no longer see us--namely, me, as a threat to their criminal endeavors within the development. A part of me concurs, however there have been nights when I did pull back indoors and the freaks still vandalized my parents' home.

I still do not have the answers. This place remains a hive of busy paranormal activity, and the prowlers still prowl. I think they should move, get the flock outta here. We'll see.

In my opinion the vandalism could be part of an ongoing scam...it might not be your neighbors. I know from my own personal experiance with scam artists, they prey on peoples fears. I see that hollywood has made scams like this possible via the paranormal activity movies. It sounds as if you ruled out a lot of the neighbors, the kids, so if it's no one in the neighbor hood then who benefits from all this?

Houses burn, owners get money.

Houses become vacated, Owners sell anything left and make money.

Houses become damaged, Owners make money...

Houses vacated and objects gone, new people move in, owners make money.

If they go about it like a cult, like a paranormal thing, it scares people...scared people move. That takes care of the coporeal in my opinion.. It stands to reason, frauds like this happen all the time. What I'd recommend, is call the police, ask who the detective is in charge of the arsons in your neighborhood, and ask to be transfered to that detective, and throw it out by him, let him run with it.

The paranormal sounds to me more land based. I'm still leaning towards the kkk connection. The house burning, could of triggered a memory from when the kkk were there...by putting out the fire...your putting out the light that is the glory of god. Your making an enemy of the clan by denying that fire. That's what the kkk believes for the burning cross, it's why they burned the cross. You put out the fire. So it could of been a catalyst.

I still think you should carry a digital recorder on your watch. Anything paranormal going on might be captured, I myself will sit and listen to it if you send me a complete original copy of the file. I will even go so far as to host my findings for you, and post them here for you. This audio evidence will help us better determine what is going on. It's like being in the military...a villager may tell you, bathe party members are hiding in x location...you don't go there without getting more intel, that villager might be trying to lead you into a trap.

If it's demons, they are very tricky. They may appear as one thing, but their not that thing. They may appear as a frail old lady...but their not...I do worry I come off a bit abrasive, trying to help. I don't really think it's demons...You can get hit in the head and your head jerk with less then 10 pounds of pressure. My boy hit me today with a wiffle ball bat and jerked my head pretty good.

The bruise your mother sustained, again it can be done with less then 10 pounds of pressure. While it may take quite a bit of force to cause a bruise in a young child, even minor bumps and scrapes may cause extensive bruising or ecchymosis in an elderly person. Blood vessels become more fragile as we age, and bruising may even occur without prior injury in the elderly. Don't know if your mother qualifies as elderly, but the older you are the more fragile the blood vessles, the easier you bruise.

The welt could have a medical reason as well. Dermatographic urticaria. It is the most common of Dematographic skin disorders typically seen in 4–5% of the population. The skin becomes raised and inflamed when stroked, scratched, rubbed, and sometimes even slapped. The symptoms are thought to be caused by mast cells in the surface of the skin releasing histamines without the presence of antigens, due to the presence of a weak membrane surrounding the mast cells. The histamines released cause the skin to swell in the affected areas. Not saying it's the cause but it is one possibility.

The problem with welts is, they can be anything, hives, mosquito bites, allergies, eczema, poison ivy and flea bites amongst other things. Welts are the result of fluid building up under the skin. Even if struck fluid builds up under the skin causing a welt. Age in my opinion could weaken cell walls, and wearing something like a hat too tight can cause welts. So in my thought and I'm no medical professional but maybe if a human spirit smacked her she could get a welt from that.

Human spirits can cause scratches. I've experianced this myself on investigation during one of my cases. I had several scratches from the small of my back to the base of my neck during my most well documented case to date, the town farm investigation, wich is still ongoing.

Attacks on the legs sounds like it could also be a human spirit, there isn't much detail on the leg attack though, so not entirely sure.

To me the only attack that could be demonic, is the attack where the muscles in the legs were nearly rended. Even then it might not of been. I know I myself sometimes wake up in odd positions with severe muscle cramps. Like last night I woke up with one leg over my head, the other leg twisted under me, and I was experiancing severe cramps...If it wasn't for the fact I remembered my dream I'd be wondering what on earth is going on, unfortunately I was having a dream about the mortal kombat video games where I was one of the characters. It hurt, I've had cramps so bad that I've had partial tears in the muscle.

These cramps can be cause by many things, Causes of cramping include hyperflexion, hypoxia, exposure to large changes in temperature, dehydration, or low blood salt. Muscle cramps may also be a symptom or complication of pregnancy, kidney disease, thyroid disease, hypokalemia, hypomagnesemia or hypocalcemia (as conditions), restless-leg syndrome, varicose veins, and multiple sclerosis.

I myself have Restless-leg syndrome, I do sometimes suffer from hypoxia due to Obstructive sleep apnea where my throat relaxes and closes off depriving my body of air, it generally happens the most when I'm dehydrated ontop of it.

Obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) is the most common category of sleep-disordered breathing. The muscle tone of the body ordinarily relaxes during sleep, and at the level of the throat the human airway is composed of collapsible walls of soft tissue which can obstruct breathing during sleep. Mild occasional sleep apnea, such as many people experience during an upper respiratory infection, may not be important, but chronic severe obstructive sleep apnea requires treatment to prevent low blood oxygen (hypoxemia), sleep deprivation, and other complications.
Individuals with low muscle tone and soft tissue around the airway (e.g., because of obesity) and structural features that give rise to a narrowed airway are at high risk for obstructive sleep apnea. The elderly are more likely to have OSA than young people. Men are more likely to suffer sleep apnea than women and children are, though it is not uncommon in the latter two population groups.

Hypoxia differs from hypoxemia in that, in the latter, the oxygen concentration within the arterial blood is abnormally low. It is possible to experience hypoxia and have a low oxygen content (e.g., due to anemia) but maintain high oxygen partial pressure (pO2). Incorrect use of these terms can lead to confusion, especially as hypoxemia is among the causes of hypoxia (in hypoxemic hypoxia).

The risk of OSA rises with increasing body weight, active smoking and age. In addition, patients with diabetes or "borderline" diabetes have up to three times the risk of having OSA.

Common symptoms include loud snoring, restless sleep, and sleepiness during the daytime. Diagnostic tests include home oximetry or polysomnography in a sleep clinic.

Other indicators include (but are not limited to): hypersomnolence, obesity BMI >30, large neck circumference (16 in (410 mm) in women, 17 in (430 mm) in men), enlarged tonsils and large tongue volume, micrognathia, morning headaches, irritability/mood-swings/depression, and learning and/or memory difficulties.

So there's some medical things that might be worth looking into. Expecially the Sleep apnea, that can be life threatening. So there are some things that need to be looked at. I'd strongly urge you to talk to your mother, and your father and bring the sleep apnea to the table, they are at risk for it, and it could explain some of the attacks.

Side note, I went down to my local seismologist station and got some info on the date of the wall incident. We registered earthquakes here, we didn't feel them, I will provide the data I got on it.

There was 758 earthquakes in PA this month. (not including the beginning of this month.

Unfortunately I'm having trouble with my Webhosting provider, so I've resorted to an ex's webserver that. I've got 2 files both the same thing on the earthquake data.



http://www.freewebs.com/katsalbum/August%2...arthquakes.html

http://www.freewebs.com/katsalbum/August%2...earthquakes.csv


Some of the alignment is off in the html one, the depth is 36 feet on the 6th one down from the top.

There was 14 earthquakes on that day, they were minor and probably not felt by people, but they did happen, they were registered, it could be maybe over time the wall was already breaking taking heavy wear and tear, and it just finally buckled. That would explain why it broke with out any projectile.

Mecheart - September 2, 2011 09:48 AM (GMT)





Grendal,


I appreciate your extensive effort to assist me in rationalization of the situation described by me in the preceding posts; shows that you really care about the plight of others. There's an old axiom--perhaps its one of the oldest--goes something like this: "Unless you've experienced it..."

Seems like you have solid experience in such matters, and I compliment again your willingness to offer aid and take the time to do so. I took a few moments and visited your website: www.sirsparanormal.com

I am of two minds in regards to the quantitative investigation of the paranormal...i.e. ghost hunting. It's a long story, suffice it to say, I was partially raised by a Native American woman born in 1905, whose parents were born in the 1860's and 70's. She was a herb healer, and among other things, a...custodian of very ancient ways and beliefs. From a very young age, I was exposed to malevolent entities--call them spirits, ghosts, demons--invisible forces, whatever. Why was and am I still hyper sensitive to such presences? Perhaps it's in the blood, or was I born upside down? I can't tell you.

Regarding "ghost hunting" I do not know about particle physics, energy fields, electronic filters, etc. My professional background is structural engineering. Irregardless of lack of ghost hunting know how, I have repeatedly, albeit the experiences are usually separated by a few years, encountered violent entities...both as a civilian and soldier; a child and an adult. When I first posted here, I was at wits end. Reaching out over the www for something like this was a last resort...an act of fatigue driven desperation. I am still overtired, the situation remains dire, however I remain adamant in the faces of those who wish to harm my loved ones; I will prevail, they will either go away, or answer directly for their meaningless, unjustified campaign of terror.

Back to ghost hunting. I have been places, stood in the presence of "things" so negative, that the air was like breathing humid ice, and rushing over me like water in a rapid river. I have been pushed, squeezed, held down and tossed around. Selfishly I wish, when watching a ghost hunting show with my young niece, that the tv ghost hunters would dare investigate a location such as those I have described--those which harbor the kind of savage entities that lurk within, awaiting a homeless person's or child's entry, and pouncing when they do. Sounds far fetched? Ever drive or walk by an abandoned factory--one fenced in, fence topped with live concertina, or with windows bricked up? How about sealed, abandoned apartment complexes in ruined urban neighborhoods? Such places are all too real, and more common than is comforting.

Observing, investigating the paranormal via high tech equipment is fascinating in a sense, however there are haunted places out there which need immediate demolition, and not scientific investigation. Ever enter a building/dwelling where the malevolence was so palpable you could hardly breath, where the feeling of impending doom was physically crushing. If you ever do, get out right away--especially if you're alone or in a small group.

I am not criticizing paranormal investigation, I just believe that instead of observing such activity, we ought to be finding better ways to banish or contain the most dangerous manifestations. Guess I am feeling a bit beaten up after another busy night. Thanks again for the input...I did not know so many earth tremors occurred so frequently in PA.




















grendal - September 2, 2011 11:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mecheart @ Sep 2 2011, 04:48 AM)

QUOTE
I appreciate your extensive effort to assist me in rationalization of the situation described by me in the preceding posts; shows that you really care about the plight of others. There's an old axiom--perhaps its one of the oldest--goes something like this: "Unless you've experienced it..."


Of course we care, all serious investigators care. I've been in this field 7 years now, I've been slapped, pushed, I've gone so far as to investigate locations, other investigators would cringe, one of wich I feel from a second floor building through the floors into the basement, wich I don't recommend. I do it cause I care, bad things happen to good people, and I've had my share of experiances. The house I live in is more a prison then anything else, I'm not allowed upstairs my the several spirits who live here with me. To the point I was attacked a couple of times. I was tired of waking up to "people" standing at the foot of my bed staring at me. I was young, it was terrifying.

Only people who understood was my cousin E., and my grandma who used to live here and had similar trouble.


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I compliment again your willingness to offer aid and take the time to do so.


Thank you for the compliment, very few come the way of an investigator.


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I took a few moments and visited your website: www.sirsparanormal.com


That's the groups page, the page is mostly inactive, many of the members have had to deal with life. I still am very active. Mostly on here, my other page and the field. Unfortunately my service provider has blocked my ability to continue work on my other page and I am currently rebuilding it else where. Any questions feel free to ask. I will always take my time to answer questions and help dispel many myths.

QUOTE
I am of two minds in regards to the quantitative investigation of the paranormal...i.e. ghost hunting. It's a long story, suffice it to say, I was partially raised by a Native American woman born in 1905, whose parents were born in the 1860's and 70's. She was a herb healer, and among other things, a...custodian of very ancient ways and beliefs. From a very young age, I was exposed to malevolent entities--call them spirits, ghosts, demons--invisible forces, whatever. Why was and am I still hyper sensitive to such presences? Perhaps it's in the blood, or was I born upside down? I can't tell you.


The Native american's deal with very powerful spirit. Could their rituals leave you open, could you be a sensitive, it is quite possible. Being a herb healer, I would of thought she'd of taught you, and might of been prepping you for the path she fore saw in the smoke, or wich ever divinition she might of practiced. I would think you were exposed to what I call guardians. They are powerful spirits, half man, half animal. They are violent, only malevolent when it suits their purpose. They are the guardians of native american ways. If you were to burn a sacred tree, it would unleash the guardian, who would manifest in a way similar to guardians. Call them elementals, windigos, demons, they are generally not harmful, unless you cross native american holy sites. I believe this is why building on indian burial grounds is so violent. They are not doing it to hurt you, they are doing it to right a wrong done to them. You do not walk into another man's house, steal his food, steal his drink, and prop your feet up on his table without that man punching you. My great grandma before she passed used to say, The white man only has greed in his heart. He does not respect the land, and the land does not respect him. The great spirits will not respect he who does not respect the land. In this the white man may kill the land, but the land will succeed in killing the white man. Once hypersensitive, you will always be hypersensitive, it is not a disease or a curse, there is no magic spell, no incation no pill to make it go away. The native american up bringing, could quite easily of opened you to the ways of the spirits.

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Regarding "ghost hunting" I do not know about particle physics, energy fields, electronic filters, etc. My professional background is structural  engineering.


Then you like me, have a technological mind. I hold a saying, sometimes the best tools to have in the tool box is many, for you never know what you might need to do in the field. For example, if I broke my fore arm, bone protruding, I should be able to surpess the need to dance around screaming ow. I should be able to treat it and get to a hospital. Without logic, rationality, things can go very wrong. If I ran around with an untreated broken bone, there is a chance I will loose a lot of blood, I could die, and some places I investigate there is no help, there is no back up, there are no neighbors, there is no cell reception.

If a steel girder is too short, do you run around screaming it's not going to fit, you don't panic, you say, ok well let's get another one shall we, they sent us the wrong one.

Different backgrounds, all lend themself to "ghost hunting". I could of used your expertise to prevent the basement drop incident for example.


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When I first posted here, I was at wits end. Reaching out over the www for something like this was a last resort...an act of fatigue driven desperation. I am still overtired, the situation remains dire, however I remain adamant in the faces of those who wish to harm my loved ones; I will prevail, they will either go away, or answer directly for their meaningless, unjustified campaign of terror.


Well we need to document more, to figure out patterns. To get more information that can be plugged in, to provide the over all picture. I'd recommend, buying journals, for your loved ones, to write down their experiances. I'd tell you to go out and buy a digital camcorder.

Some Camcorders offer a combination of embedded and removable flash memory, which greatly expands your video-recording time without adding much heft to the device. Even on less capacious models, embedded memory is very useful in a pinch, in case you lose your storage card or fill it up.

The one I got uses SDXC SD card (the most recent). Cards that use the original SD format max out at 2GB of storage, which isn't enough for most video needs. You'll want to stick with SDHC cards (4GB to 32GB) or SDXC cards (64GB or more).

Pay attention to when you buy an SDHC or SDXC card. Each card comes with two speed ratings. The Class rating gives the minimum write speed of the card, which is important to know when you're saving video. Each Class number identifies the minimum write speeds in megabytes per second (MBps). For example, Class 4 cards offer minimum write speeds of 4 MBps. Bit rates for the current crop of consumer camcorders typically top out at 24 megabits per second (mbps), or 3 MBps, so a Class 4 rated card works fine.

You don't need to splurge on a Class 6 or Class 10 card. But if you expect to crank out reams of long Full HD video files, get a card with the highest maximum speed rating you can afford. The higher the maximum rating, the faster you can whisk your video from the camera into your PC for editing and archiving.

Most camcorders announced in 2010 support the SDXC format, but before you plunk down plastic for an SDXC card, make sure your camcorder and card readers support it. The first SDXC devices came out in 2010, so any camcorder released before then won't support the format. And though most new camcorders do support SDXC, card readers and other host devices are still playing catch-up.

I recommend a SanDisk's ImageMate All-in-One Reader USB 2.0.

I got a couple of camcorders, pocket camcorders are generally $80 to $250. Their ok, I'd recommend a standard definition camcorder, they run $180 to $330. HD camcorders run, $300 to $1000. Then you got the HD pro's they'll run you $1000 to $3000. Video-Capable Digital SLRs will run $1000 to $5000. Professional camcorders are $5000+.

For your needs, a video journal while your out on patrol, I'd say a Kodak Playsport would be perfect. I got 3, 2 are in peices on the bench but they were very good rugged and took a beating. It's water resistant, Wrist strap incase you need to chase something. Part number for the thing is 1442102. 112-149 dollars depending where you find it. I like mine it also works for family functions and stuff like that.

We know your at wits end, and we're hoping and praying things get resolved for you and your family. We're trying to help. Like I've said I don't think this is demonic just yet. Theres still other explinations that need to be explored. I also need to sit with you and identify potential power sources. To me there is a lot of energy being expended, but where are they getting that energy from.

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Ever drive or walk by an abandoned factory--one fenced in, fence topped with live concertina, or with windows bricked up? How about sealed, abandoned apartment complexes in ruined urban neighborhoods? Such places are all too real, and more common than is comforting.


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Observing, investigating the paranormal via high tech equipment is fascinating in a sense, however there are haunted places out there which need immediate demolition, and not scientific investigation.


I've been to places like this. Rhode island is full of abandoned mills, full of many abandoned places. The worst I been to was an old grave yard in scituite, wich lived up to it's reputation as being a violent haunting. It was an indian burial ground. The indian remains were uncovered...and tossed aside to make way for english settlers during an outbreak wich is unknown and debated to this day. The settlers believed the devil was among them, and he was taking those who made a deal with him. They burried them in non christian ground with the belief their souls were burning in hell fire. Bones to this day of the indians still litter the ground. I did not have the gear I have now, and the owner has declined all investigators since sacraficed animals and pentagrams were found scrawled over the walls and the land heavily patrolled. There is no building, there is nothing there, but woods and an old granite wall made from local stones gathered from a nearby field. It is still haunted. I believe if you tore places like the ones you describe, no matter what is there, it will still be there....there is cases of houses torn down and the lot gutted of debris from the house...and even the empty lot activity still continues. Without scientific means, there would be no understand we have today. For example the first evps are though to of come from thomas edison, though there is no proof he ever got the device built, general exceptence is that he died before completing it. You can read a short history of evp here : EVP and ITC history

With out scientific investigation, many things would not be possible today. I know my favorite past time is recording sounds that cannot be heard with the human hear. Examples here Examples of natural auditory phenomenon.

I hold to the teachings of sun tzu.

"It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle." Chapter 3 last sentence of the art of war by sun tzu.

Without knowing what we're dealing with through scientific means, we will not win every single battle. In a war where, innocent families are on the field of battle, we want to win every war.


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I am not criticizing paranormal investigation, I just believe that instead of observing such activity, we ought to be finding better ways to banish or contain the most dangerous manifestations. Guess I am feeling a bit beaten up after another busy night. Thanks again for the input...I did not know so many earth tremors occurred so frequently in PA.


We understand that, many of us run into like minded individuals, who do feel the same way you do. However without observing the activity, disecting it, pulling it apart, looking at how things may work. You cannot find better ways to deal with it. If I hired you to build me a building. Then I sit you down and have you make a radio...your not going to know how to build that radio no matter how many schematics I throw your way. It's dangerous, yes, but if your trying to get rid of a human spirit, and it's a demon, your not going to succeed. Where as if you observe, you look at things from a grounded point of view. You try to debunk what's going on, often your left with a lot you can explain. Often your left with things you can't. I still have things I cannot explain, it must be paranormal, or I'm not grounded enough.

That is why many people come looking for help, they have trouble and haven't come to an answer.

There is a saying in the hagakure (book of the samurai), "It is difficult for a fool's habits to change to selflessness. ... Because we do most things relying only on our own sagacity we become self-interested, turn our backs on reason, and things do not turn out well. As seen by other people this is sordid, weak, narrow and inefficient. When one is not capable of true intelligence, it is good to consult with someone of good sense. An advisor will fulfill the Way when he makes a decision by selfless and frank intelligence because he is not personally involved. This way of doing things will certainly be seen by others as being strongly rooted. It is, for example, like a large tree with many roots. One man's intelligence is like a tree that has been simply stuck in the ground.

We learn about the sayings and deeds of the men of old in order to entrust ourselves to their wisdom and prevent selfishness. When we throw off our own bias, follow the sayings of the ancients, and confer with other people, matters should go well and without mishap."

They have trouble, they come to use, looking for the answer, and we the advisors, help them find their answers. Sometimes it's not the answers they are looking for. I myself have reviewed some evidence brought here to the site, and when reviewed, it was faked. I answered their question as to what it was, and they didn't like the answer and were a little harsh. It goes with the field though.

The observation and science helps us distinguish the different types of hauntings, the different types of spirits. It helps us identify problems in the home, things like mold, Electro-magnetic fields, medical conditions, that could account for some of the experiances. There was a time when science was in it's infancy though when even medical conditions were not understood. One example is Waverly sanitarium, used to be a tuberculosis hospital. One way of treatment was to put balloons into your lungs and inflate them, and it often killed you. Wasn't a treatment, but medical science at the time didn't know any better. The science here is still in it's infacy. There is many new things going on in the field, it is still growing. I know in my heart, one day science will prove these things exist, it will no longer be fringe science, and brilliant minds will be in the field, and then things like banishment, and containment will be much easier, and there would be little need for observation and scientific inquary. I imagine one day, we'll walk into a place, pull out a single device and it does the work for us...and containment...we won't need containment...we'd know how to disrupt their molecular make up, and be able to render them powerless...as long as a single device is on, their destroyed, their molecules lay motionless, unable to form...this may not happen in our life time, it may not happen in our great great great grand kids life time...but it will happen. Edison though said it best.

"If our personality survives, then it is strictly logical or scientific to assume that it retains memory, intellect, other faculties, and knowledge that we acquire on this Earth. Therefore … if we can evolve an instrument so delicate as to be affected by our personality as it survives in the next life, such an instrument, when made available, ought to record something." Thomas Edison 1920's.

The thing I worry about that day when they are no longer able to interact, is the inability for the loved ones lost, to watch the family grow. I myself when I pass, intend to stick around.

Forgive me if this next bit offends anyone. My own personal believe. I believe the gospel of saint thomas, the 3rd saying says, Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.

When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."

I believe it's true, the kingdom of heaven is our soul, the life we lead, the damage we do to our soul, it makes up the kingdom in the next life. If you lived a good life, and your soul is not tarnished, you will have a good kingdom, and you will be a happy spirit.

If you lived a life and you were very unhappy, when you die, you will be in a kingdom that makes you unhappy. Demons, I do not know where the come from. Do I believe in a god, somewhat, I believe there is a greater force, what it is, I don't know, I don't believe the wars, the famines, the hell on earth we make is what that greater force wants. Call that force what you want, it's there, but I still align myself with athiest cause, it's better for the field. You can deal with people of all sorts of faiths, and generally they will not shun you for it...where as if your a christan, and your in the presence of a strict muslim family, that difference of religion, can cause problems between the investigator and the person your trying to help. Should also be respectful of other faiths even if they conflict with your own. You my friend, are on the path to becomming an investigator, you just don't know it yet.


Onward to the case at hand.

I wanted to ask, what is around the location. Power lines? Running water? Quarts? Granite? What's the composition of the foundations of the house? Any grandfather clock type clocks? Pendulum clocks?

Are there any history of dumping near by? Heavy metals? pcbs? I know there is telluric current, wich is present everywhere in the world. Flowing water under ground? What's the soil like? If your willing I'd say take soil samples and get them tested for composition to find what minerals and chemicals maybe in the soil.

There is earthquake activity, that might also be part of the energy source powering these things. There is many things that can be driving them energy wise. It would take an incredible amount of energy, it has to be comming from somewhere. If we can key in on the source of the energy, we might be able to isolate what is going on to cause it. So while out on patrol, keep a journal, digital recorder, or a video camcorder, both would work, video in my opinion be better, you could send me clips and I can rip them apart and analyze them, I can do the same for audio. I will even teach you how to go through audio if you wish. Video on the other hand is much more complex and very hard to teach others without sitting down at a computer with them and showing them, explaining things and working on it together. Video there is many factors, the camera used, the compression rate, 1000's of other factors.

Mecheart - September 4, 2011 08:22 AM (GMT)
Shots were fired for the first time last night. Not at me--but within fifty meters of my parents' home. Someone shined a laser pointer into my eyes from approximately thirty or so meters; I looked away, in turn lit the perp up with a powerful flashlight--he was lying prone under a pine tree. Vision is still a bit spotty, but recovering fine; you have to hand it to these "buddies" of mine prowling around at night, that was a timely, tactical strategy. Otherwise, the last couple of nights have seen less direct action against my parents' property, and intensification of vandalism of closely neighboring homes. I feel guilty, for not "engaging" the thugs as they took out their frustration on nearby properties--but family comes first. 911 is just as easy for them to dial.

As for the geological composition of the area: the development sits midway up the southern slope of a river valley, is surrounded by fifty to one hundred acre tracts of forest and mostly cornfields, and the most prevalent type of rock is blue mountain shale and quartz visible at the valley summit in fairly large outcroppings. An atomic plant sits--as the crow flies--five or so miles northeast. Two conventional power generation plants--one coal, the other hydroelectric--are located due north along the river, within a mile of each other, a few miles from the development. A city of one hundred or so thousand lies six miles south; within its limits are many industrial parks housing factories of many kinds. High voltage power lines run down the valley walls mounted on large towers, toward the river; one can hear the buzzing of electricity within them when in close proximity--however they run past the development a mile or so to the west so I have discounted their EM influence.

Personal research has revealed that a cemetery--referred to as a burial ground, not Native American, once existed along the road running past the development. According to local history a farmer plowed off the stones for some unknown reason. I have yet to find the exact location of said graveyard, but I suspect I already know.



Warning: What follows is description of graphic violence. Use discretion please.


A particularly disturbing haunting ongoing in one of the closeby neighbor's home deserves mention. As told to me by an elderly neighbor who has lived in the development for fifteen years:

Eight years ago a sixty something man moved into the home behind hers. She was a widow, he a widower so they "got together" in strictly platonic relationship. "He" claimed to have thousands invested in stocks, which he offered to leave her upon his death, on the condition that she be his sweetheart until that day. She agreed, and all was fine at first, until he began to randomly grab and bodily shake her. When she asked him one day why he shook her like that out of the blue, he replied that he did not know, as if he truly had no recollection of ever doing so.

Due to the shaking incidents, and his change in behavior to bouts of extreme unpredictability, she called off the low intensity romance, and asked him to stay away from her doorstep. Some weeks later, a policeman knocked on her door, informed her that "He" had died, but refused to provide details. She goes outside, watches as police and crime scene personnel remove his recliner chair, living room carpet and drapes--all soaked in blood. Sometime later, a neighbor asks her if on the day of "His" death, she heard him screaming--screaming for hours.

At some point her nephew--a policeman with a different department--revealed the details of "His" death, at her insistence. Apparently, "He" was beaten to death while sitting in his recliner chair, in his living room, in broad daylight.

Fast forward to the near present. New tenants now live in "His" former home. Without knowledge of who lived there previously, the details of his death, or his relationship with "Her", one of the new tenants has told me, when asked about paranormal activity in her home, that she has been shaken awake in her bed more than once, and that her toddler son has claimed to have seen a strange man both in their bedroom and bathroom.

I genuinely pity the new tenants that moved into "His" former house, and would like to tell them what happened there before they moved in, but everyone in the know agrees that we cannot, for fear of inciting extreme terror in them personally, and fearfulness of their home.

Many similar accounts have been discovered pertaining to other homes in the development--all involving violent deaths from assaults, or grisly suicides. Something is extremely wrong with either the land or the trees, or some other aspect of the immediate area. This...multifaceted crisis has already proven too much for some. Close friends of my parents--an elderly couple who have lived in the development for years--have put their home up for sale, as have their daughter who owns and lives in a separate closeby home. Their granddaughter I recently learned, reported the niece of the park manager to the police after having witnessed the niece setting small fires behind abandoned or for sale homes. They will not disclose the details of what decided their sudden desire to leave, only that they want out NOW.

I will get back to answering your post, Grendal. At the moment, I am headed back outside to do a sweep, and perhaps take up a hide for an hour or so in order to see what is what before dawn.

grendal - September 4, 2011 05:02 PM (GMT)
Blue mountain shale and quarts could definetely do it. Half way up the river valley should be large amounts of shale and quarts below ground, washed down from upstream. Could be veins and deposits below ground wich would be a wonderful power source.

So this would be the blue mountain region. It is mostly Silurian aged sandstone, conglomerate, siltstone, shale, and some limestone. These can all produce electricity when under pressure.

So that could definetly do it, in combination with the river, that could only add to it...so there is the power sources...The question becomes, does anything go on out near that river.




As for laying prone and shooting, that is the most stable platform to shoot from, not that I need to tell you that since you yourself have military training. It is common knowledge. Doesn't narrow it down, but they have a laser pointer...that means they are not confident making a shot in the dark....they need to laze the target to get the aim...Was it small arm fire? Projectiles recovered? Shell casings?

Useless_info - September 7, 2011 05:23 AM (GMT)
Let me shed some light on the original posting here as well as some background information:

You shouldn't be fooled by a wolf in sheeps clothing...

The original poster is 38 years old, he resides in York, PA in a trailer park with his mother and father and younger brother. the development is in fact built on farmland about a mile outside of York, however still within the city limits. So when he says siding was ripped off he means trailer skirting which is very simple to remove and likewise would have cause a LOT of noise as it's sheet metal, someone would have noticed. His father works long hours trying to support the family, the brother would rather not be at home however has little in the way of options and the mother does nothing, likewise neither does the original poster. The reason he's able to "stand watch" all these nights is because he is once again unemployed and has nothing better to do then live off the generosity of family members. His sister spent several years as a successful single mother before she married a Mcdonalds manager, promptly bought a trailer in the same park and popped out 2 more kids to a total loser who continues to spend all his money on himself and ignores his family. Her child that was supposedly struck probably just fell off his tricycle

His military history does exist, however he was not an Officer, not an Engineer in any sort, but simply Infantry before he was dishonorably discharged 2 years into his "career". He never deployed, never saw any horrors and never shot a weapon except on a range. He does however have an arrest record involving an illegal hand gun (he also still has an outstanding warrant in his name).

He is not Native American by anything including birth. The great grandmother he describes was not his, and he was born to German descendants, his natural parents as opposed to a story he'll tell about being raised by his lovely Native American Grandmother and his mother who was of English descent (his father ran out of course, leaving his poor mother to return to her native country until she could no longer care for him and shipped him home to his Native American Grandmother. He'll also claim he spoke no English until he went to school and spoke only Mohican Indian).

The events the original poster describes are not only fabricated but have been repeated to unsuspecting victims before, albeit those normally women he made to feel sorry for him. If given the opportunity even though it's not the forum, he'll tell you of the evils of his ex wife (still currently married) who had a late term abortion performed on his son (an ectopic pregnancy) and the evil ex girlfriend who ripped his son from his arms for him never to see again (nevermind the significant and numerous lies there)

In his original posting dated August 12, 2011 he says 7 weeks have passed (which would put his arson around the last week of June) however if you look into the York Daily Record's website you'll note there is NO arson NOR fire mentioned within at least a WEEK either way of his assigned 7 week status (http://www.ydr.com/circare/html/sca_template.jsp?pageQuery=fire&pageSearchKey=News&origQuery=fire&pageOffset=100&sort=-rank&pageNo=11&navigator=locationsnavigator%3Alocations%3AYork%3A^York%24) in the local paper. Now im not saying York isn't a large enough area however a simple keyword search of "fire" out to do the trick. We can check "arson" as well if you'd like and there were arsons, however they were car fires. There's is NO info on the incidents that he describes.

The poster said "UPDATE:

I now believe that a satanic cult/witch of some kind, is directing negative energy/has conjured something and has sicked "it" on my mother or family as a whole. When my parents' home was first vandalized, siding was ripped off the rear area of their home in a six foot swath, which laid bare a crawl space. A red candle was placed in the earth beneath their bedrooom floor in the crawlspace and lit. Does anyone have a solid idea of what kind of ritual the attacker(s) might have been attempting? Luckily, and this was before I began my nightly watch, their two Jack Russells alerted my mother and seemingly interrupted whatever the sick SOBs were out to do. " He has made this same claim before. I assure you the wife who was with him to begin with did in deed have similar experiences, however that was many many years ago.

The last time I myself heard this story a homeless man had crawled under the trailer, prior to his parents moving in and the candle was for light as well as warmth. Its funny how the same thing would have been repeated over and over without anyone's knowledge ...

In theory the mother was diagnosed with multiple begin tumors in her brain, and along both legs including her groin, all of which (combined with the numerous pain medications she's on)have rendered her to a babbling state of confusion and cause her legs to spasm in wrenching pain, all of which is clearly explained in his other posts. The mother isn't suffering from demonic activity, she's suffering from various documented medical conditions including Grand Mal seizures.

The poster would like you to believe MANY things, including the fact he's a solider, he's protecting his family and loved ones and he's suffering from some sort of malevolent activity that personally involves him... the sad, simple truth is that he's a manipulative sociopath who preys on the innocent... Yourselves included

grendal - September 7, 2011 08:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Useless_info @ Sep 7 2011, 12:23 AM)
Let me shed some light on the original posting here as well as some background information:

You shouldn't be fooled by a wolf in sheeps clothing...

The original poster is 38 years old, he resides in York, PA in a trailer park with his mother and father and younger brother. the development is in fact built on farmland about a mile outside of York, however still within the city limits. So when he says siding was ripped off he means trailer skirting which is very simple to remove and likewise would have cause a LOT of noise as it's sheet metal, someone would have noticed. His father works long hours trying to support the family, the brother would rather not be at home however has little in the way of options and the mother does nothing, likewise neither does the original poster. The reason he's able to "stand watch" all these nights is because he is once again unemployed and has nothing better to do then live off the generosity of family members. His sister spent several years as a successful single mother before she married a Mcdonalds manager, promptly bought a trailer in the same park and popped out 2 more kids to a total loser who continues to spend all his money on himself and ignores his family. Her child that was supposedly struck probably just fell off his tricycle

His military history does exist, however he was not an Officer, not an Engineer in any sort, but simply Infantry before he was dishonorably discharged 2 years into his "career". He never deployed, never saw any horrors and never shot a weapon except on a range. He does however have an arrest record involving an illegal hand gun (he also still has an outstanding warrant in his name).

He is not Native American by anything including birth. The great grandmother he describes was not his, and he was born to German descendants, his natural parents as opposed to a story he'll tell about being raised by his lovely Native American Grandmother and his mother who was of English descent (his father ran out of course, leaving his poor mother to return to her native country until she could no longer care for him and shipped him home to his Native American Grandmother. He'll also claim he spoke no English until he went to school and spoke only Mohican Indian).

The events the original poster describes are not only fabricated but have been repeated to unsuspecting victims before, albeit those normally women he made to feel sorry for him. If given the opportunity even though it's not the forum, he'll tell you of the evils of his ex wife (still currently married) who had a late term abortion performed on his son (an ectopic pregnancy) and the evil ex girlfriend who ripped his son from his arms for him never to see again (nevermind the significant and numerous lies there)

In his original posting dated August 12, 2011 he says 7 weeks have passed (which would put his arson around the last week of June) however if you look into the York Daily Record's website you'll note there is NO arson NOR fire mentioned within at least a WEEK either way of his assigned 7 week status (http://www.ydr.com/circare/html/sca_template.jsp?pageQuery=fire&pageSearchKey=News&origQuery=fire&pageOffset=100&sort=-rank&pageNo=11&navigator=locationsnavigator%3Alocations%3AYork%3A^York%24) in the local paper. Now im not saying York isn't a large enough area however a simple keyword search of "fire" out to do the trick. We can check "arson" as well if you'd like and there were arsons, however they were car fires. There's is NO info on the incidents that he describes.

The poster said "UPDATE:

I now believe that a satanic cult/witch of some kind, is directing negative energy/has conjured something and has sicked "it" on my mother or family as a whole. When my parents' home was first vandalized, siding was ripped off the rear area of their home in a six foot swath, which laid bare a crawl space. A red candle was placed in the earth beneath their bedrooom floor in the crawlspace and lit. Does anyone have a solid idea of what kind of ritual the attacker(s) might have been attempting? Luckily, and this was before I began my nightly watch, their two Jack Russells alerted my mother and seemingly interrupted whatever the sick SOBs were out to do. " He has made this same claim before. I assure you the wife who was with him to begin with did in deed have similar experiences, however that was many many years ago.

The last time I myself heard this story a homeless man had crawled under the trailer, prior to his parents moving in and the candle was for light as well as warmth. Its funny how the same thing would have been repeated over and over without anyone's knowledge ...

In theory the mother was diagnosed with multiple begin tumors in her brain, and along both legs including her groin, all of which (combined with the numerous pain medications she's on)have rendered her to a babbling state of confusion and cause her legs to spasm in wrenching pain, all of which is clearly explained in his other posts. The mother isn't suffering from demonic activity, she's suffering from various documented medical conditions including Grand Mal seizures.

The poster would like you to believe MANY things, including the fact he's a solider, he's protecting his family and loved ones and he's suffering from some sort of malevolent activity that personally involves him... the sad, simple truth is that he's a manipulative sociopath who preys on the innocent... Yourselves included

Do you have any concrete evidence of your claim? How do you know all this?

Useless_info - September 8, 2011 03:13 AM (GMT)
I have plenty of concrete evidence, however it leads me to ask the question... Why would you ask me for evidence and not him ?

grendal - September 8, 2011 05:36 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Useless_info @ Sep 7 2011, 10:13 PM)
I have plenty of concrete evidence, however it leads me to ask the question... Why would you ask me for evidence and not him ?

I recommended to keep journals, and to carry a digital recorder so he could gather evidence, I even went so far as to recommend a video camera to help keep video logs.

To raise a claim publicly, calling a member out, who has posted their having trouble, sometimes leads to fights and arguments. People come here to get help, and often in the field when someone comes forward there is a skeptic who tends to shoot them down. To date he has not brought evidence forth, wich raises some suspicion. Most who come here do have some form of evidence. You claim to know him, sometimes people who do come forward need help with more then just spirits. We here try to help no matter what. This field boils down to evidence. Who has it, if you have evidence he is not experiancing the paranormal, then we'd like to know that evidence. If he was willing we'd even help him get help, unfortunately we cannot force him, unless he poses a danger to himself or others, we cannot do much.

Help is help, and we are here to help. My asking for evidence I admit probably didn't sound too professional, for that I must appologize, I ment no offence. I've been very stressed as of late with my current cases.




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