I remember hearing about the white noise theory, well I'd like to add onto this and expand it more, white noise is a crackling sound common with the classic tv snow that sounds statiky (my opinion and in laymens terms), I think blown speakers and music could act as a replacement to white noise....however, for evp work this would be simply hell. So if anyone cares to try this, you will need a copy of the song and play it without the blown speakers. The blown speakers just add crackling. Get a program such as wavepad (it's free and I'm too cheap to buy anything!) So the theory of drawing out with music is to find good music that has significance to the area your hunting. For example if your out west in america in say tombstone (preferably not during a windstorm), you should find some old time classic colyapy music or period music, it's what they listened to, make a cd of it, and put it into a portable radio, this radio should be placed inside of a place your hunting, like the birdcage and play the music, this is the lure or bait, back in them days it was pretty much social hour when music was playing, and play it later in the evening as this is traditionally when they would stop working and gamble, dance and do things which got them ill fame. The hopes is those who don't know their dead will come and be more open and make it easier to catch their voices.

Here there isn't anything like that, being in the north eastern united states revolutionary, french, indian, civil war, and music with a historical connection to the state would be good bait. I think if you like music in life, that can carry on into the next life. I've yet to go do this myself. (snow ice and lack of a car and drivers licence makes it nearly impossible)

Now you got your evp wich is currently a nightmare, to remove the music you must open both the evp and the songs. Break the evp down into sections, so you got song 1 in the evp and song 1 on screen. Highlight song one, and go to file grab noise profile. Then click over to evp section 1 with song 1, highlight it and click file remove selected noise profile, this will with all luck remove all of the song and any music from the song with it, and hopefully leave behind any music or voices that might of happened out of your hearing. Will make video tutorial for this later.

This is a great theory. Taking out the background noise until you have the sound that you are looking for.

It would take some sophisticated computer programs to get this to work.

I personally would if need be play the white noise in short bursts and then conduct the EVP session to avoid noise polution. Just like when using the Singapor Theory.

I don't know why people think white noise is an effective tool to bring forward ghosts. When you use white noise it allows other channels sounds to come through and you may indeed be bringing up sounds of another channel though the picture doesn't come across

Isn't it a theory that spirits whether human or non can find a way to place or imprint their voices on a frequency that has no signal...<?>

I don't remember how I heard it exactly.

I only have to go into my bathroom the running water or my exquisite presence :rofl: draws them in.... my bet is on the water. ;)

The thought behind playing music to remind them of another time and place is a solid one...I would not do it myself...oye how hard to sift through all of that.

Dressing in the style of the period...saying certain things..etc.all can contribute to fuel to the fire although Tombstone probably doesn't need any help..

My main issues with EVPs which consist of simple phrases that are NOT responses or specifics is that any signal can get in to contaminate them...but then again I am not all that learned in EVPs.

You are not off on that thought.

But with the digital recording devices that are available today, you can keep down the amount of interferance.

schagg here's a question..do the digital recorders pick up stray signals also?

I mean this month we are all required to switch to TV digital signals can they pick up other digital signals or stray signals?

What I mean is the absence of a signal or 'white noise" being somehow able to help them use the frequency,in this example via a tv, will the digital stop this or enhance it?

I am asking you, but anyone else can jump in...:)

I don't know. I am asking my tech advisor now.

It has been known that SOME digital recorders DO pickup stray/random radio waves, this is VERY rare but it is something that Cynics are picking up on and this then means that EVPs are under attack from these people. Something I do and would recommend trying is placing the audio recorder in a Faraday Cage or Anti Static bag. These block any outside radio signals from being picked up. They also give your EVPS more solidity

I was given some more advice from another of my friends that is also tech savy. I believe both gentlemen that I got the info from.

Digital voice recorders won't pick up signals that Digital TV "receivers" are designed for.

If I understand your question being of "white noise" capability of Digital voice recorders...yes, they all do as a default. Most units have an option of "noise cancellation" on/off in addition to "low frequency cut filters", both should be set to the "OFF" postion, this allows the background noise (white) to be active.

If your NOT using your DVR for a paranormal cause (just for dictaton, music, etc) then you should turn these filters ON for the highest clarity with minimal distortion.

Your DVR will NOT pick up any television signal whatsoever from your digital TV receiver (no cross freqency contamination possibility) regardless of your voice recorder settings, so have no worries .

Thank you and thank your friend as well. ;)

They both said you are welcome and any time. They were happy I asked.

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I don't know why people think white noise is an effective tool to bring forward ghosts. When you use white noise it allows other channels sounds to come through and you may indeed be bringing up sounds of another channel though the picture doesn't come across


-The theory works off of the basic theory of the white noise theory, music is something that can be easily filtered out, more so then white noise, figure like studio albums, if you can remove the voice and most of the music via noise removal in like wave pad (too cheap and unskilled at that high end stuff). It could make for a better bait then white noise so you don't pick up the other channel or get much contamination. Example if I went to a vietnam war memorial, and I played some george thorogood and the destroyers albums, like bad to the bone or something like that, it's controlled, you got the music from the cd, all you have to do later is just remove it, it might seem simpler to me cause I'm no expert...


DF Host Christine



Isn't it a theory that spirits whether human or non can find a way to place or imprint their voices on a frequency that has no signal...<?>

I don't remember how I heard it exactly.

I only have to go into my bathroom the running water or my exquisite presence roflsmiley.gif draws them in.... my bet is on the water. wink.gif

The thought behind playing music to remind them of another time and place is a solid one...I would not do it myself...oye how hard to sift through all of that.

Dressing in the style of the period...saying certain things..etc.all can contribute to fuel to the fire although Tombstone probably doesn't need any help..

My main issues with EVPs which consist of simple phrases that are NOT responses or specifics is that any signal can get in to contaminate them...but then again I am not all that learned in EVPs.

-neither am I, what do know is self taught, or through experiance, I've thought of joining a group but travel is not something I'm good at, no car or licence. However I'd like to sit and play around more with this theory by applying it....however here in rhode island most stuff is colonoial...and me being a guy...well let's just say dawning a colonial dress is quite too much in the name of expanding the field.....lol

schaqq69

You are not off on that thought.

But with the digital recording devices that are available today, you can keep down the amount of interferance.

-carpe callengum bringuma interfium (no my latin isn't good) seize the challenge, bring on the interferance.


DF Host Christine

schagg here's a question..do the digital recorders pick up stray signals also?

I mean this month we are all required to switch to TV digital signals can they pick up other digital signals or stray signals?

What I mean is the absence of a signal or 'white noise" being somehow able to help them use the frequency,in this example via a tv, will the digital stop this or enhance it?

I am asking you, but anyone else can jump in...smile.gif

--my experiance with digital recorders is they often click not sure if it's interferance but as it was explained to me it's because they don't like recording silence, but when it's in the negative hz range I tend to wonder if it could be some type of interferance. Althought a very nice question.

schaqq69



I don't know. I am asking my tech advisor now.

It has been known that SOME digital recorders DO pickup stray/random radio waves, this is VERY rare but it is something that Cynics are picking up on and this then means that EVPs are under attack from these people. Something I do and would recommend trying is placing the audio recorder in a Faraday Cage or Anti Static bag. These block any outside radio signals from being picked up. They also give your EVPS more solidity

---and where does one pick up these faraday cages or anti static bags....and can you make them....cheaply?


schaqq69


I was given some more advice from another of my friends that is also tech savy. I believe both gentlemen that I got the info from.

Digital voice recorders won't pick up signals that Digital TV "receivers" are designed for.

If I understand your question being of "white noise" capability of Digital voice recorders...yes, they all do as a default. Most units have an option of "noise cancellation" on/off in addition to "low frequency cut filters", both should be set to the "OFF" postion, this allows the background noise (white) to be active.

If your NOT using your DVR for a paranormal cause (just for dictaton, music, etc) then you should turn these filters ON for the highest clarity with minimal distortion.

Your DVR will NOT pick up any television signal whatsoever from your digital TV receiver (no cross freqency contamination possibility) regardless of your voice recorder settings, so have no worries .


---thank god/and the the people who thought of the cross frequency contamination possibilities



(sorry for delayed responce computer trouble)

Now there is a theory that if a spirit/ghost (spirit IMO is one that has crossed and came back/ghost IMO is one that is earth bound for what ever reason) is from a certain era in short increments it will bring a forth the entity.

It is a theory that is being tested.

I collect music so when I get the chance I am going to use the theory for myself to see the results first hand.

IMO you can't take something just because it has been written down and documented as working. You need to experiment with ideas yourself to find what works best for you and/or your group.

ah but there lies the problem, a) I'm not sure what music was popular during the liz borden murders. B) I don't get out much...picture cia gadet geek, thats pretty much me, I don't get out much for actual hunts. My longest hunt lasted around 8 hours....in all the time I got only 1 evp...a woman's voice saying oh my god...being alone (yes my cousin had to pee I'm not gonna stand there gonna give her room) it spooked me and I took off running....considering the source was less then 3 feet to my left and no one was there....at first it sounded like a quick faint breath but definetly a voice later on. This particular one, was rather fast and very faint, amped around 800% run through low and high pass, it was startling for me.