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Jiang Wei| sparkingAC195 |
Posted: Oct 27 2007, 06:53 PM
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After spending a good portion of yesterday playing as
 on Orochi, im interested to know a bit more about the real , what do you know of him? do you think he was responsible for Shu's demise? What would have happened if he stayed with Wei? -------------------- Can you feel a rumbling
Its building up like Thunder inside you Feel the Earth is Quaking The air itself is shaking around you Shadows on the moon Someone's comming very soon you will meet him The Midnight rider comes for you Now is the Time You know its Right it is your destiny And there will be no more turning back so take your place in history...  This Signature would not have been possible without the following people: dwandswforlife the once talented Tam Wing Lun --------------- SparkingAC195's little corner of Wisdom... "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. " Lao Tzu "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance. " Ali "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong" Gandhi "If you want to learn to swim, jump into the water. On dry land, no frame of mind is ever going to help you." Bruce Lee "Knowing is not enough, you must apply; willing is not enough, you must do." Bruce Lee "Recompense injury with justice, and recompense kindness with kindness. " Confucius "I would never kill the one person who understood me." Treize Khushrenada "A war with no civility only gives rise to massacre. " Treize Khushrenada "It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle." Sun Tsu "To do two things at once is to do neither" Publilius Syrus "We desire nothing so much as what we ought not to have." Publilius Syrus "see imbaciles look and behold my master peice!" Scholar |
  
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| scholar |
Posted: Oct 27 2007, 10:49 PM
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was partial to the reason why shu fell however there were many people with more fault than him Well for one after Fei Yi died Xiahou Ba or Zhang Yi would lead Shu however was talented but somewhat reckless he may be someone who would loose the west to Shu or be a supporter of the Cao line and revolt against Sami Yan/Zhao -------------------- Planning A Coup
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| sparkingAC195 |
Posted: Oct 27 2007, 11:51 PM
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Are you reffering to his failed campaigns sapping Shu of its men and rescources? -------------------- Can you feel a rumbling
Its building up like Thunder inside you Feel the Earth is Quaking The air itself is shaking around you Shadows on the moon Someone's comming very soon you will meet him The Midnight rider comes for you Now is the Time You know its Right it is your destiny And there will be no more turning back so take your place in history... This Signature would not have been possible without the following people: dwandswforlife the once talented Tam Wing Lun --------------- SparkingAC195's little corner of Wisdom... "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. " Lao Tzu "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance. " Ali "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong" Gandhi "If you want to learn to swim, jump into the water. On dry land, no frame of mind is ever going to help you." Bruce Lee "Knowing is not enough, you must apply; willing is not enough, you must do." Bruce Lee "Recompense injury with justice, and recompense kindness with kindness. " Confucius "I would never kill the one person who understood me." Treize Khushrenada "A war with no civility only gives rise to massacre. " Treize Khushrenada "It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle." Sun Tsu "To do two things at once is to do neither" Publilius Syrus "We desire nothing so much as what we ought not to have." Publilius Syrus "see imbaciles look and behold my master peice!" Scholar |
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| Bishamonten |
Posted: Oct 28 2007, 01:07 PM
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His constant attacks north and lack of support from Chan at Shu's capitol made him fail. Shu still could have managed taking on Wei if Chan had supported
better. -------------------- 20-1.... let us continue. Be watching February 6th. Duke will fall.
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| sparkingAC195 |
Posted: Oct 28 2007, 11:32 PM
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So it's that idiot advisor's fault for Shu's demise? or was he a character created by Shen or Luo to make Liu Chan seem less guilty? -------------------- Can you feel a rumbling
Its building up like Thunder inside you Feel the Earth is Quaking The air itself is shaking around you Shadows on the moon Someone's comming very soon you will meet him The Midnight rider comes for you Now is the Time You know its Right it is your destiny And there will be no more turning back so take your place in history... This Signature would not have been possible without the following people: dwandswforlife the once talented Tam Wing Lun --------------- SparkingAC195's little corner of Wisdom... "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. " Lao Tzu "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance. " Ali "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong" Gandhi "If you want to learn to swim, jump into the water. On dry land, no frame of mind is ever going to help you." Bruce Lee "Knowing is not enough, you must apply; willing is not enough, you must do." Bruce Lee "Recompense injury with justice, and recompense kindness with kindness. " Confucius "I would never kill the one person who understood me." Treize Khushrenada "A war with no civility only gives rise to massacre. " Treize Khushrenada "It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle." Sun Tsu "To do two things at once is to do neither" Publilius Syrus "We desire nothing so much as what we ought not to have." Publilius Syrus "see imbaciles look and behold my master peice!" Scholar |
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| Bishamonten |
Posted: Oct 29 2007, 02:54 PM
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It was both of them. Chan knew he was corrupt, but he pleased him with his proposals so he followed him.
-------------------- 20-1.... let us continue. Be watching February 6th. Duke will fall.
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| dwandswforlife |
Posted: Oct 29 2007, 08:10 PM
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If Jiang would of stayed in Wei, he would of been illed, and sweaped away into history, remember, he was taught by
 , that is why he got better, and even stopped Wei numerous times. Sima did not even recognize him. -------------------- |
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| sparkingAC195 |
Posted: Oct 30 2007, 04:11 AM
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Of course  recognised him, so did a few Wei officers in Tianshui and many Shu officers other than . I believe you are referring to Ma Su. -------------------- Can you feel a rumbling
Its building up like Thunder inside you Feel the Earth is Quaking The air itself is shaking around you Shadows on the moon Someone's comming very soon you will meet him The Midnight rider comes for you Now is the Time You know its Right it is your destiny And there will be no more turning back so take your place in history... This Signature would not have been possible without the following people: dwandswforlife the once talented Tam Wing Lun --------------- SparkingAC195's little corner of Wisdom... "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. " Lao Tzu "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance. " Ali "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong" Gandhi "If you want to learn to swim, jump into the water. On dry land, no frame of mind is ever going to help you." Bruce Lee "Knowing is not enough, you must apply; willing is not enough, you must do." Bruce Lee "Recompense injury with justice, and recompense kindness with kindness. " Confucius "I would never kill the one person who understood me." Treize Khushrenada "A war with no civility only gives rise to massacre. " Treize Khushrenada "It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle." Sun Tsu "To do two things at once is to do neither" Publilius Syrus "We desire nothing so much as what we ought not to have." Publilius Syrus "see imbaciles look and behold my master peice!" Scholar |
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| Bishamonten |
Posted: Oct 30 2007, 02:54 PM
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knew of his talents. He wanted to let him grow in battle situations. It was the prefect of Tian Shui (I can't think of his name  ) that did not use or recognize his talents. -------------------- 20-1.... let us continue. Be watching February 6th. Duke will fall.
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| Zhou Yu [Gongjin] |
Posted: Oct 30 2007, 04:02 PM
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I believe the perfect was Ma Zun.
-------------------- The General Of Wu Shall Inherit The Burning Spirt Of A Tiger.
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Posted: Oct 30 2007, 05:38 PM
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i assume everyone can agree to him being a fool for at first he sent
to quell a village from defecting miles away and then some double pops up and says he is fighting for Shu and when he come back from loosing miserably to he went back to request reinforcement and he was shot at by ma zun calling him a traitor so had no choice but to surrender to Shu but man he became pretty loyal to shu pretty fast -------------------- Planning A Coup
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| sparkingAC195 |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 12:39 AM
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Japan's No. #1 Taipan Lord Sorin Otomo, Holy Christian Ruler Group: Administrators Posts: 2875 Member No.: 6 Joined: 1-October 07 |
If you were in his situation, wouldn't you?
-------------------- Can you feel a rumbling
Its building up like Thunder inside you Feel the Earth is Quaking The air itself is shaking around you Shadows on the moon Someone's comming very soon you will meet him The Midnight rider comes for you Now is the Time You know its Right it is your destiny And there will be no more turning back so take your place in history... This Signature would not have been possible without the following people: dwandswforlife the once talented Tam Wing Lun --------------- SparkingAC195's little corner of Wisdom... "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. " Lao Tzu "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance. " Ali "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong" Gandhi "If you want to learn to swim, jump into the water. On dry land, no frame of mind is ever going to help you." Bruce Lee "Knowing is not enough, you must apply; willing is not enough, you must do." Bruce Lee "Recompense injury with justice, and recompense kindness with kindness. " Confucius "I would never kill the one person who understood me." Treize Khushrenada "A war with no civility only gives rise to massacre. " Treize Khushrenada "It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle." Sun Tsu "To do two things at once is to do neither" Publilius Syrus "We desire nothing so much as what we ought not to have." Publilius Syrus "see imbaciles look and behold my master peice!" Scholar |
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| Bishamonten |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 02:41 PM
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Sure would. He was underappreciated in his current service and mistreated. Ma Zun (thank you Zhou Yu
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Posted: Oct 31 2007, 03:44 PM
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Ma Zun or 's -------------------- Planning A Coup
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| Zhou Yu [Gongjin] |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 07:34 PM
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I think it was Ma Zun jealous of
.I forget but i remember that part. -------------------- The General Of Wu Shall Inherit The Burning Spirt Of A Tiger.
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