Title: Meiji Restoration
Description: Imperial Rule Once Again
wassupimviet - January 2, 2008 08:00 PM (GMT)
The Meiji Revolution, a series of conflicts that successfully overturned the Tokugawa Bakafu with the abdication of the Tokugawa Shogun, Yoshinobu. Sakamoto Ryoma was one of the head runners of this Restoration, putting Emperor Meiji into power and restoring imperial rule. But, that's all I know. So discuss, educate, and learn, maybe putting down a link or two.
scholar - January 2, 2008 10:52 PM (GMT)
erh not too fond of this period, samurai class is restricted, and a few other things that lead to its immediate restoration, except from a few ronin rebellions, but this lead to the downfall, eventually.
wassupimviet - January 2, 2008 10:59 PM (GMT)
Not my favored subject, either, but it is the period that shows Japan's transition from a isolated and proud country into a major world power.
sparkingAC195 - January 2, 2008 11:47 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (wassupimviet @ Jan 3 2008, 09:59 AM) |
| Not my favored subject, either, but it is the period that shows Japan's transition from a isolated and proud country into a major world power. |
Ah yes the Restoration, back when Japan was ruled by one burns victim who had a giant steel battleship and ten loyal followers, two of which wanted to kill him...
Seriously, Meiji is a real contender for greatest japanese Ruler. Ever.
wassupimviet - January 2, 2008 11:59 PM (GMT)
See, that's the type of thing I want to learn about. Now, if you could give a link to an online source or book, I'll be on my way...
sparkingAC195 - January 3, 2008 12:01 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (wassupimviet @ Jan 3 2008, 10:59 AM) |
| See, that's the type of thing I want to learn about. Now, if you could give a link to an online source or book, I'll be on my way... |
I was talking about Shishio Makoto...
wassupimviet - January 3, 2008 12:02 AM (GMT)
Sorry for being ignorant, but that would be...
EDIT: Wow, it's been so long I can't remember him...
sparkingAC195 - January 3, 2008 12:04 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (wassupimviet @ Jan 3 2008, 11:02 AM) |
| Sorry for being ignorant, but that would be... |
This Guynot the best link i could find though...
wassupimviet - January 3, 2008 12:12 AM (GMT)
I just knew a Rurouni Kenshin reference would pop up somewhere...
sparkingAC195 - January 3, 2008 12:20 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (wassupimviet @ Jan 3 2008, 11:12 AM) |
| I just knew a Rurouni Kenshin reference would pop up somewhere... |
Yes, Ruroken is great!
But seriously, Meiji is without a doubt, Japan's greatest leader.
wassupimviet - January 3, 2008 12:23 AM (GMT)
I'm sure he is...So great that he had only a single heir and tons of people out to get him!
sparkingAC195 - January 3, 2008 12:27 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (wassupimviet @ Jan 3 2008, 11:23 AM) |
| I'm sure he is...So great that he had only a single heir and tons of people out to get him! |
he DID turn a crappy Feudalist state into a great power in only 10-15 years you know...
wassupimviet - January 3, 2008 12:29 AM (GMT)
Feudalism wasn't THAT bad...Besides, we could have had the next great shogun in a few decades or so!
sparkingAC195 - January 3, 2008 12:34 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (wassupimviet @ Jan 3 2008, 11:29 AM) |
| Feudalism wasn't THAT bad...Besides, we could have had the next great shogun in a few decades or so! |
Yeah, Japan did have a great Shogun after Yoriwhatshisname, and that Shogun also happened to be the Emperor...
wassupimviet - January 3, 2008 12:50 AM (GMT)
sparkingAC195 - January 3, 2008 12:53 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (wassupimviet @ Jan 3 2008, 11:50 AM) |
| It doesn't count! |
He was better than 100% of all Tokugawa Shoguns that don't have a first name starting with Ieyasu...
wassupimviet - January 3, 2008 03:13 AM (GMT)
What about Hidetada...Fine, you win.
sparkingAC195 - January 3, 2008 03:28 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (wassupimviet @ Jan 3 2008, 02:13 PM) |
| What about Hidetada...Fine, you win. |
actually, what good did Hidetada do? Ieyasu was still very much in power during half of his reign, much like Chinese Politics, really...
