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Title: Chinese guns
Description: musket, breech loader


TMPikachu - March 21, 2005 05:38 AM (GMT)
from Thomas Chen's website
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Above: Picture of a Portuguese-style matchlock gun adopted by the Chinese military as rendered in General Qi Jiguang's military manual
"Ji Xiao Xin Shu", edition of 1588. This weapon was copied from Japanese pirates who in turn had earlier copied the design from the Portuguese. The Chinese Imperial Forces had embraced this weapon enthusiastically. In 1558, a total of 10,000 of such weapons were manufactured for the Chinese Imperial Army by Chinese gunsmiths.

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Above: Pics from the Chinese musket manual "Magically Efficient Tools" of 1598, authored by Zhao Shizhen:
A) Turkish musket B) Western (Portuguese-style) musket C) Zhao Shizhen's self-developed breech-loading musket.
During his time, he had copied the Turkish musket, then devised a breech-loading model based on
the Turkish musket and commissioned the manufacture of both for the Ming Imperial Court.
This breech-loading musket is most likely the world's earliest type of breech-loading musket.


Below: Pic from the above manual, Ming soldier with portuguese
musket in a kneeling position with a fork-clamp rest-peg
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user posted imageArmoured Ming soldiers in the 1620s-40s, with their muskets and 3-eyed guns, supported by non-armoured soldiers equipped with sabers and shields. General Qi has advocated firing off the 3-eyed gun at long range when the enemy is far away, afterwhich it would be used as a polearm in close-quarters fighting.

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3-eyed gun


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A Qing Imperial Army cavalry warrior, with his matchlock gun slung around his shoulder. He wears a coat of mail and wields a lance. His quiver of arrows is shown, but his bow and saber are not seen as they are suspended on his belt on his left side.



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Military parade showing soldiers of the Blue Banner with their muskets. The Qing military had a very strong and large musket component in their forces.

NumeroUno1 - March 21, 2005 07:43 AM (GMT)
Interesting. Could be handy for that special character.

Me/Myself/I - March 21, 2005 06:20 PM (GMT)
I like the cavalry dude (can we have one uncle TINS.....Please!)

NumeroUno1 - March 21, 2005 06:44 PM (GMT)
Those are Hatamoto in our list :)

Me/Myself/I - March 21, 2005 09:27 PM (GMT)
No, that dude is total fast cavalry, not fat cavalry (like our hatamoto).
If they were in the firework farter's list then they would have fire works on the end (they actually did that)

(Q: how do you people find these sites, I look but find nothing?)

TMPikachu - March 22, 2005 03:04 AM (GMT)
Usually when you find one, you find more, and make contact with those people to find more

like Thomas Chen has a really super awesome swords website, and an armor website too

and there is the forum www.allempires.com which is where history dorks go to talk history.

NumeroUno1 - March 22, 2005 07:31 AM (GMT)
Lol. The firework on a stick is slightly, er.....suicidal. Maybe they are ungols then.

TMPikachu - March 22, 2005 05:23 PM (GMT)
fire lances don't explode, they shoot out fire at the end of spears.

Me/Myself/I - March 22, 2005 07:12 PM (GMT)
They'd scare the shit outta horsies!

NumeroUno1 - March 23, 2005 07:30 AM (GMT)
Point. "Fire!" BOOM! "Agggghhh!"




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