Mossad-Linked Art Students Living In WTC?

From Elinoff... just posted yesterday... he says they're Austrian and German but linked to Mossad, were doing construction in the WTC, had somewhere between 3 and 4 tons of boxes, blueprints with places to hide, etc...

Interesting.

I wonder what the evidence is that they were detained or associated with the Israeli spy ring.

I'm wondering that too. Apparently he's going to be coming out with more details today or tomorrow so we'll see.

The follow up:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edxYE9sZ5WI...player_embedded

I haven't listened yet.

the existence of these guys is nothing new, i had read their story over at kt's forum over a year ago. but connecting them to the mossad is a new twist, one that so far lacks any evidence.

Here's his write-up
http://truthalliance.net/Archive/tabid/67/...90/Default.aspx

still no connection to the mossad or the "israeli art students":

Hanan Serfaty was arrested by DEA agents in connection to the Israeli spy ring. What makes him stand out, is that he was listed as being an art student who was apart of the World Views program, which was in the World Trade Center on floors 90 and 91 in the Lower Manhatten Cultural Council. Although he is not listed by Gelitin as a member of “The B-Thing,” the listing of the identities of the other 14 students who were on floor 91 at the time was never released to the public, neither was the total list of those involved in the stunt which numbers at a minimum of 6.

i of course will read the piece again (when time provides) to see if i missed something while skimming it, but these guys werent even israeli. presently however, i think the connection of gelitin to mossad is a stretch and mostly based on fluff and innuendo.

i will read it again later and get back to this thread, but feel free to help me out by pointing out any damning passages that specifically spell out the mossad connection....

Why are there no smoking signs on the all the boxes?

Can art supplies explode or catch fire because of careless smoking?

Whatever is in those many boxes seems to be of a very dangerous flammable nature.

I am not suggesting anything further at this time.

http://truthalliance.net/Archive/tabid/67/...90/Default.aspx

Hmmm very strange that the book is named Gelatin: The B-Thing

And what do we have here

NITRO GELATIN EXPLOSIVE

http://www.freewebs.com/lpumsun/gelatinexplosive.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/sys...ompositions.htm

Gelatin
Blasting gelatin is a rubber-textured explosive made by adding nitrocellulose (guncotton) to nitroglycerin. An antacid is added for stability in storage. Wood meal is usually added to improve sensitivity. Blasting gelatin attains a very high detonation velocity and has excellent water resistance, but it emits large volumes of noxious fumes upon detonation. It is the most powerful of all commercial explosives. Blasting gelatin is also known as "oil well explosive."

Nobel did much more than merely invent dynamite; he also invented blasting gelatine, gelatine dynamite, and gelignite, both of the latter being better suited for rock blasting than pure dynamite. Blasting gelatine was used to pierce the great St. Gothard Railway tunnel through rock so hard that without it the task could never have been accomplished. Blasting gelatine was tried in guns, but burst them, so Nobel set himself to discover an explosive less violent, yet equally clear and smokeless. By mixing nitroglycerine and guncotton he found a comparatively slow-burning powder which he called ballistite, and this, when he gave it to the world in 1888, caused a very great sensation.

Straight gelatin is a dense, plastic explosive consisting of nitroglycerin or other explosive oil gelatinized with. nitrocellulose, an antacid, sodium nitrate, carbonaceous fuel, and sometimes sulfur. Since the gelatin tends to coat the other ingredients, straight gelatin is water-proof. Straight gelatin is the equivalent of straight dynamite in the dynamite category and is manufactured in weight strengths of 20 to 90 percent with corresponding cartridge strengths of 30 to 80 percent. The cartridge strength or the weight strength may be referred to by the manufacturer as the "grade" of the gelatin, a term which is confusing. Straight gelatin has been used in very hard rock or as a bottom charge in a column of explosives. It has been replaced in most applications by a more economical substitute such as ammonia gelatin, brit higher grades are still used in underwater blasting and in deep well shooting.

Straight gelatin has two characteristic detonation velocities, the confined velocity and a much lower velocity which results from insufficient confinement, insufficient initiation, or high hydrostatic, pressure. Extremely high water pressures may cause a misfire. To overcome this disadvantage, high-velocity gelatin has been developed. High-velocity gelatin is very similar to straight gelatin except that it is slightly less dense, more sensitive to detonation, and always detonates near its rated velocity regardless of water pressure or degree of confinement. High-velocity gelatin is particularly useful as a seismic explosive, and is also used in deep well and underwater work.

Ammonia gelatin (special gelatin or gelatin extra) has a portion of the nitroglycerin and sodium nitrate replaced by ammonium nitrate. Ammonia gelatin is comparable to a straight gelatin in the same way that a high-density ammonia dynamite is comparable to a straight dynamite, and was developed as a cheaper substitute. Ammonia gelatin is commonly manufactured in weight strengths of 30 to 80 percent with corresponding cartridge strengths of 35 to 72 percent. Compared with straight gelatin, ammonia gelatin has a somewhat lower detonation velocity, better fume qualities, and less water resistance, although it will fire efficiently even after standing in water for several days. It is suitable for underground work because of its good fume rating. The higher strengths (70 percent or higher) are efficient as primers for blasting agents.

A semigelatin is comparable to an ammonia gelatin as a low-density ammonia dynamite is comparable to a high-density ammonia dynamite. Like low-density extras, semigelatin has a uniform weight strength (60 to 65 percent) with the cartridge strength varying with the density and grain size of the ingredients. Its properties fall betieen those of high- density ammonia dynamite and ammonia gelatin, and it has great versatility. Semigelatin can be used to replace ammonia dynamite when more water resistance is needed. It is cheaper for wet work than ammonia gelatin, although its water resistance is not quite as high as that of ammonia gelatin. Semigelatin has a confined detonation velocity of 10,000 to 12,000 fps, which, b contrast to that of most explosives, is not seriously affected by lack of confinement. Very good fume qualities permit its use underground. The compositions are similar to ammonia gelatin with less nitroglycerin and sodium nitrate and more ammonium nitrate.

It seems this type of explosive is part nitrogylcerine which would make it very flammable NOW WOULDNT IT.

Why is it that all those boxes with the no smoking signs on them make me very suspicious seriously how much artwork did these guys plan on doing?

And seriously what the hell does BB 18 mean anyway wtf?

Hey look here it says Hanan Serfaty "WAS" one of the members of
the israeli spy ring, it doesnt say anything about him being arrested though.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17260.htm

"One "art student" was a former Israeli military intelligence officer named Hanan Serfaty, who rented two Hollywood apartments close to the mail drop and apartment of Mohammed Atta and four other hijackers. Serfaty was moving large amounts of cash: he carried bank slips showing more than $100,000 deposited from December 2000 through the first quarter of 2001; other bank slips showed withdrawals for about $80,000 during the same period. Serfaty's apartments, serving as crash pads for at least two other "art students", were located at 4220 Sheridan Street and 701 South 21st Avenue. Lead hijacker Mohammed Atta's mail drop was at 3389 Sheridan Street--approximately 2,700 feet from Serfaty's Sheridan Street apartment. Both Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi, the suicide pilot on United Airlines Flight 175, which smashed into World Trade Center 2, lived in a rented apartment at 1818 Jackson Street, some 1,800 feet from Serfaty's South 21st Avenue apartment."

This looks like a smoking gun

Mossad had advanced knowledge of the 9/11 operation, what most
idiots cant figure out is that they did it.

Whether or not Israeli spies had detailed foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks, the Israeli authorities knew enough to warn the U.S. government in the summer of 2001 that an attack was on the horizon. The British Sunday Telegraph reported on September 16, 2001, that two senior agents with the Mossad were dispatched to Washington in August 2001 "to alert the CIA and FBI to the existence of a cell of as many as 200 terrorists said to be preparing a big operation". The Telegraph quoted a "senior Israeli security official" as saying the Mossad experts had "no specific information about what was being planned". Still, the official told the Telegraph, the Mossad contacts had "linked the plot to Osama bin Laden". Likewise, Die Zeit correspondent Oliver Schröm reported that on August 23, 2001, the Mossad "handed its American counterpart a list of names of terrorists who were staying in the U.S. and were presumably planning to launch an attack in the foreseeable future". Fox News' Carl Cameron, in May 2002, also reported warnings by Israel: "Based on its own intelligence, the Israeli government provided 'general' information to the United States in the second week of August that an al-Qaeda attack was imminent". The U.S. government later claimed these warnings were not specific enough to allow any mitigating action to be taken. Mossad expert Gordon Thomas, author of Gideon's Spies, says German intelligence sources told him that as late as August 2001 Israeli spies in the United States had made surveillance contacts with "known supporters of bin Laden in the U.S.A. It was those surveillance contacts that later raised the question: how much prior knowledge did Mossad have and at what stage?"

200 terrorists planning a big operation inside the U.S wasnt the israeli
art student ring about 200?

So let's see

http://whatreallyhappened.wikia.com/wiki/I...li_Art_Students

Around 140 Israelis were arrested or detained between March 2001 and September 11, 2001.[4] Although suspected of espionage, many were deported on visa and work violations. After 9/11, an additional 60 Israelis (most working at shopping mall kiosks) were arrested and deported after intensive interrogations. It was determined some of these were serving in the Israeli military, on active duty.

140 + 60 = 2000 Just a another coincidence?

And wait there's more

The report revealed a majority of the Israelis interviewed by US investigators had military backgrounds with expertise in intelligence, electronic surveillance and explosives. One “art student” was the son of a two-star Israeli general while another had provided security to the head of the Israeli Army. The report concluded, “That these people are now traveling in the U.S. selling art seems not to fit their background.”

Most of them where explosives experts as it was revealed by investigators when arrested and interrogated wouldnt this particular skill be useful in blowing up
certain important american buildings, wouldnt it now huh?