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| Domenick DiMaggio CIT |
Posted: Sep 1 2007, 01:37 PM
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Citizen Investigator Group: Admin Posts: 532 Member No.: 3 Joined: 1-September 07 |
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| Domenick DiMaggio CIT |
Posted: Nov 29 2007, 07:13 PM
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Citizen Investigator Group: Admin Posts: 532 Member No.: 3 Joined: 1-September 07 |
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| catgrlz |
Posted: Dec 19 2007, 11:12 PM
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Concerned Citizen Group: Member Posts: 78 Member No.: 11 Joined: 19-December 07 |
Wow. I had no idea that there were multiple planes being seen in PA. Amazing. She was saying that there was actually some passenger plane debris found 4 or 5 miles away from the lil crater caused by the UAV she saw. Whats up with that-what is your take on that?
Maybe the Park Service people were just patriots trying to capture some truth in official record in the capacity that they were able to? By the way great interview guys. |
| Domenick DiMaggio CIT |
Posted: Dec 22 2007, 09:03 PM
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There were 3 seperate debris fields. And it seems these little shards of aluminum and steel were everywhere. The locals say the debris "was everywhere" but none of it recognizable....
Allegedly its for the memorial. They want to have some sort of archive. I doubt Susan's account will be available to the public. Thank you! |
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| Domenick DiMaggio CIT |
Posted: Feb 22 2008, 02:45 PM
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Citizen Investigator Group: Admin Posts: 532 Member No.: 3 Joined: 1-September 07 |
Jon Meyer is currently with WNEP. I'm trying to find a way to contact him as their doesn't seem to be a contact for him there at the site. |
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| SPreston |
Posted: Mar 19 2008, 08:14 PM
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Concerned Citizen Group: Member Posts: 59 Member No.: 36 Joined: 13-February 08 |
Domenick I'm going to cross post this here seeing that you have already done so at PFT. This is quite possibly the aircraft Susan McElwain saw flying silently above her, seeing that the Israelis have been producing and exporting these for about 10 years. The aircraft is extremely silent and is used for close range surveillance and reconnaissance. Many law enforcement agencies have purchased them for surveillance activities. It would be interesting to see Susan's and the other eyewitness reactions if they saw these photos or better yet along with an actual model built to these dimensions. It seems somebody planned the reconnaissance of the Shanksville alleged crash site.
It looks like it has a folding propeller for less drag when just gliding and launching.
In this photo, the Orbiter is gliding with the motor stopped and the propeller folded back. ![]() Orbiter Close Range Surveillance And Reconnaissance - - Orbiter Miniature Aerial vehicle - - UAVs ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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| MirageOfDeceit |
Posted: Mar 20 2008, 06:16 PM
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Concerned Citizen Group: Member Posts: 86 Member No.: 12 Joined: 22-December 07 |
Hi,
I heard that there was debris in a lake about 5 miles away from the alleged crash site. I can't however remember the source (I think it was a documentary on TV, but don't quote me). Considering the way it was alleged to have crashed, either this story was bogus, or it was quietly dropped because it didn't fit with the rest of the story of it disappearing into the ground. Any way you look at it, it doesn't add up. A story that doesn't add up = fabricated. Best regards, MoD. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio CIT |
Posted: Mar 21 2008, 07:23 AM
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Citizen Investigator Group: Admin Posts: 532 Member No.: 3 Joined: 1-September 07 |
Indian Lake is 2 miles away from the crash site. This was the second debris field. Human remains were allegedly recovered from this area. If you go to pumpitout.com there is a phone interview with Wally Miller. Miller repeatedly mentions photographing the Indian Lake scene. Unfortunately Jeff Hill was more concerned in accusing Miller of participating in a cover up than realizing the implications of the coroner photographing an area 2 miles from the crash site that would be under FBI jurisdiction unless remains were recovered. The wind didn't blow body parts 2 miles away from the crater. The town of New Baltimore which is 8 miles away is the site of the 3rd debris field. Media rushed to the scene on 9/11 but found the town closed off by the FBI. New Baltimore is a very very small town with one road in and one road out. Very easy to seal off. |
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| MirageOfDeceit |
Posted: Mar 21 2008, 04:32 PM
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Concerned Citizen Group: Member Posts: 86 Member No.: 12 Joined: 22-December 07 |
Ahh! That was it!
Thanks for the link - I'll check it out! Best regards, MoD. |
| Aldo Marquis CIT |
Posted: Mar 31 2008, 07:54 AM
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A Regular Jim Garrison Group: Admin Posts: 1,521 Member No.: 2 Joined: 31-August 07 |
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| roundhead |
Posted: May 17 2008, 09:24 AM
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Concerned Citizen Group: Member Posts: 68 Member No.: 83 Joined: 14-May 08 |
The most convincing evidence i have heard that no plane crashed there came from a Fox news reporter who was on the scene from Pittsburg shortly after the "crash"...In no uncertain terms he said it was quiet, described the small hole, and stated there was nothing there that would indicate a plane had crashed.
If you google fox news flight 93 crash a you tube video is there showing him making the statement live on camera. Another thing, that "explosion "you see in the famous photograpg behind the barn to me looks exactly like an ordanance drop type deal. My guess is that one of the planes sighted that day dropped a small bomb that created the crater at the impact site, and that site had long before been chosen. To many feds were there too quick and sealed it off for it to have not been prechosen. |
| Ayla |
Posted: Sep 27 2008, 10:58 AM
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Curious Citizen Group: Member Posts: 13 Member No.: 610 Joined: 27-September 08 |
I'm convinced there was a cover up.
I'm just struggling to understand the "story-line". Why would they, for example, choose the crash site in advance and crash a plane there? It seems like a very quiet, discrete place. I mean, all the other "attacks" on 9-11 was on well known buildings. That field seems kind of "out of place"? Maybe it was going for somewhere else and something went wrong? I mean, they couldn't wait hours and hours before it had to hit something. Then the whole "we were confused" NORAD statement, wouldn't hold up. I do find the story about all major Boeing airliners (in the US) being equipped with hardware/software that allows for manual overriding of the controls in case of a hijack and the possibility of gassing all passengers/crew after take-off, through the ventilation system, very fascinating. Maybe that's really what they did, at least on United 93. Or, all the body parts were planted after the crash, but Wally Miller, the coroner, says that he was there after 30 min. and oversaw the whole operation, which, if true, could leave out the planting of remains. Any thoughts guys? /Martin |
| Domenick DiMaggio CIT |
Posted: Sep 28 2008, 09:21 PM
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Citizen Investigator Group: Admin Posts: 532 Member No.: 3 Joined: 1-September 07 |
this is the thing that gets me..... if a 757 is plummeting out of the sky then susan mcelwain should see it. this little plane would be on a collission course with it and if the plane doesn't crash where it allegedly did then there could be another type of tragedy which would be hard to explain given the nature of the small white plane witnessed by locals.
well i know from talking to eyewitnesses that mrs. mcclatchey's photograph should contain a little white plane in it if she took it within 2 minutes of the impact and she claims she took it within 10 seconds. also 2 minutes or so after the impact another military plane approached. it too was white but it was very large according to eyewitnesses.
it is possible the wings were drainage ditches like seen in the 1994 usg aerial and a missile or something similar made the impact circular crater over top of it. i know wally miller said they still have problems in that area to this day and have to make new ditches........
i have become very open to the idea it was chosen in advance in recent weeks. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio CIT |
Posted: Sep 28 2008, 09:26 PM
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Citizen Investigator Group: Admin Posts: 532 Member No.: 3 Joined: 1-September 07 |
there is no doubt a cover up taking place which of course by nature means the official story is not true. i have my beliefs but i try not to intertwine them with the witnesses. i need to remember it is important enough to prove the official story is not true. get enough witness accounts and the rest everyone will be able to piece together well enough on their own as well. and right now that's my goal.
not a single human remain was found until the 12th. that which was outside of the crater could be attributed to one human being. i saw the photos at miller's office. anything allegedly removed from the crater was not documented. remains allegedly recovered a month later when the trees fell for fall were not documented either. |
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| JonJon |
Posted: Oct 1 2010, 09:00 AM
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Concerned Citizen Group: Member Posts: 68 Member No.: 1,185 Joined: 28-September 10 |
message to Susan... It's really good this didn't happen at my house in ky...I would have been on CNN, FOX, every local and national talk show screaming !!! Oh, yeah.. What a credible witness..so she voiced my belief...it was going to tidy up any evidence?? |
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