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| A.Marquis |
Posted: Nov 17 2008, 11:03 AM
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http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wl
For those of you who aren't aware, Google Maps has had a really cool feature available that allows you to drive along the street in neighborhoods across the country and see everything from street level with a 360/3D controllable view. For the longest time, this was not available for Arlington, VA or Washington DC. Now after some time, someone has went out and shot high resolution 3D images of the streets of Arlington and DC, driving around and right past the Pentagon. ![]() This will show that while a good number of people might have had a great view of the event if they were paying attention at the right time, a great number of witnesses, including previously published ones, did not have a view of the alleged impact or the flyover/away. This will make it evident that a lot of people could have and would have and more than likely were fooled by a second plane cover story or a second plane scenario they would convince themselves of. Please take some to take your own drive around Arlington and familiarize yourself with the area. |
| Craig Ranke CIT |
Posted: Nov 17 2008, 11:14 AM
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Awesome!
This is absolutely INVALUABLE for researching from home. |
| Hayden |
Posted: Nov 17 2008, 11:49 AM
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Incredible!
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| Ligon |
Posted: Nov 17 2008, 12:18 PM
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Haha @ Gmail account name
This is great though... definitely going to "drive around" a bit. |
| A.Marquis |
Posted: Nov 17 2008, 01:59 PM
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![]() I am going to get so addicted to this. I have been longing for a research tool like this. |
| SPreston |
Posted: Nov 18 2008, 07:23 AM
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Be cautious. Google is working with Homeland Security and its 'War on Terrorism' and some scenes may not be accurate.
I worked up this little tidbit. ![]() Actual locations of light poles before removal ![]() ![]() |
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| roundhead |
Posted: Nov 18 2008, 08:30 AM
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What i would die to see is that google deal at about say 9:00 in the morning on 9/11.
Anbody wanna bet those poles werent standing well before LLOYDE came along |
| SPreston |
Posted: Nov 18 2008, 09:49 AM
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Why didn't they just set the pole on the grass on the other side of the guardrail? Assuming the pole weighed 200+ pounds, the guy on the heavy base end would have at least 100+ pounds to carry and an old guy at the other end. Who would want to step over that guardrail carrying an awkward 100+ pound load? Not me. Just back up and let Lloyde set his end down on the guardrail is how I would have handled it. Nobody steps over the guardrail carrying a load.
![]() ![]() Of course there is still that base scratch across the road too. ![]() But taking another look, the taxi had to be opposite the bridge wall with a dropoff beyond it. So why wouldn't the long pole hit the wall? Assuming it was hanging 5 or 6 feet beyond the wall, the two guys could supposedly have manuevered the pole out of the windshield, but they could not back up. They would have to pull the pole the 6 or so feet out of the car interior with Lloyde at the front bumper and the mystery stranger at the guardrail and the wall, by pushing the heavy end 6 feet more across the wall. So when Lloyde fell down, the mystery guy was about at the center of balance of the pole, so why did the small end fall on Lloyde? ![]() ![]() It is getting far too complicated isn't it? Much easier to stick with the known facts. The decoy aircraft flew Over the Naval Annex and North of the Citgo and no aircraft impacted the Pentagon and the light poles were staged. |
| m reed |
Posted: Nov 18 2008, 11:46 AM
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Hey Preston, thanks for the Washington Blvd tour and analysis. Nice to see some different views of the area. I also was digging the analysis with visuals on PFT thread that you and Craig did.
Keep up the great work! |
| Hayden |
Posted: Nov 24 2008, 11:49 AM
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![]() I noticed the van in this photo, in the middle road thing, backed up to the cab area. And is the photo SPreston posted an Ingersoll image, or another Geoff metcalf? Does anyone know of a collection of all the photos, a timeline? Anyway, another thing I wanted to point out was the man with the manpurse by the tree, right below the hole at column 14, he is in the pic SPreston posted, almost in the same pose, looking out at the crowd, not looking at the raging fire behind him? |
| Hayden |
Posted: Nov 24 2008, 07:08 PM
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Also, above the guy with the bag, is the hole at column 14. To the right, on the first floor, is column 15, mostly intact. To the right of this, is where the engine is said to hit.
A 757 doesn't fit. |
| Craig Ranke CIT |
Posted: Nov 24 2008, 07:31 PM
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Did you notice who is hanging out all cool in sunglasses next to your manpurse dude?
![]() Those are all Ingersoll images and we have them in succession with their timestamps here: http://www.thepentacon.com/Topic7.htm |
| SPreston |
Posted: Nov 24 2008, 08:00 PM
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![]() My image is an Ingersoll (one of the missing originals) and yours is apparently a Metcalf. There are a bunch of them located here in sequence, but some originals are missing. I think Craig and Aldo have the missing photos. Here are some more missing original Ingersolls. ![]() Craig has that one of yours listed as an Ingersoll ![]() ![]() These photos all show no Reagan National fire trucks on scene yet and they officially got there within 3-4 minutes after the explosion and had the initial fire out in 7 minutes. As you can see those guys guarding Lloyde and the taxi were there within two minutes, yet they are never seen talking to Lloyde. They seem to be not in the least bit interested in the fires. That guy in the yellow and black shirt is Mike Walter. ![]() ![]() |
| Hayden |
Posted: Nov 24 2008, 09:01 PM
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And where is McGraw in these pictures? Forty five seconds he was there, on the lawn...right?
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| Hayden |
Posted: Nov 24 2008, 10:09 PM
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http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/
This is where I got the image. It looks just like one of the Ingersoll images, which did seem odd to me. http://homepage.uab.edu/gunnells/post_pentagon_attack.html I thought this was cool, the panoramic of Riskus photos. Donley, Ingersoll, Riskus, Metcalf...who else took photos before the collapse? It would be great to find them all, put them in order. |
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