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 Eyewitness Testimonial:Wally Miller
Domenick DiMaggio CIT
Posted: Aug 2 2008, 11:05 PM


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Domenick DiMaggio CIT
Posted: Aug 2 2008, 11:10 PM


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Indian Lake is East of the crash site :
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The blast trajectory of the plane is southwest and into the woods :
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Domenick DiMaggio CIT
Posted: Aug 27 2008, 11:26 PM


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Posted: Aug 28 2008, 06:07 AM


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Excellent!

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Domenick DiMaggio CIT
Posted: Aug 28 2008, 07:08 PM


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thanks bro!!

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d: now there was reports in the media that there was human remains in indian lake, floating in the lake....

w: incorrect.

d: no remains were recovered from any other location than the actual site?

w: thats correct.

d: were they recovered from in the crater or were they off into the woods?

w: both

d: both?

w: both. the explanation was, when the plane came in it was coming low, it banked at a 90 degree angle allegedly from the people...from the struggle in the cockpit and the right wing hit the ground right there where the impact area is.. and as that happened it flipped the front end. the front 1/3 of the plane including the cockpit slammed into the ground off of the wing and the front 1/3 broke off and flew up into the trees with a fireball behind and the remaining 2/3 went down into the crater.



consistent with the evidence? yes.

consistent with the official story? no.

and thats just in the first 3 minutes......

eta : i dont believe miller about remains not being recovered from indian lake.
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QUOTE (Domenick DiMaggio CIT @ Aug 28 2008, 07:08 PM)
thanks bro!!

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d: now there was reports in the media that there was human remains in indian lake, floating in the lake....

w: incorrect.

d: no remains were recovered from any other location than the actual site?

w: thats correct.

d: were they recovered from in the crater or were they off into the woods?

w: both

d: both?

w: both. the explanation was, when the plane came in it was coming low, it banked at a 90 degree angle allegedly from the people...from the struggle in the cockpit and the right wing hit the ground right there where the impact area is.. and as that happened it flipped the front end. the front 1/3 of the plane including the cockpit slammed into the ground off of the wing and the front 1/3 broke off and flew up into the trees with a fireball behind and the remaining 2/3 went down into the crater.



consistent with the evidence? yes.

consistent with the official story? no.

and thats just in the first 3 minutes......

eta : i dont believe miller about remains not being recovered from indian lake.

I don't recall seeing a front 1/3 of the plane in the woods from the alleged impact. How did he arrive at that conclusion? If it banked 90 degrees and flipped the front end, we would expect to see wing spars, aircraft skin, tail sections etc. scattered all over the place. Shouldn't we also see a massive jet engine and clearly identifiable parts laying around?

He sounds like he is a parrot ( no debris elsewhere despite numerous reports) trying to cover up a possible shoot-down scenario.
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Posted: Aug 30 2008, 04:43 PM


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Possible shoot down scenario? Is there any other way to explain the debris field located 8 miles away? IMO, that's a given.

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Actually, to me he sounded quite honest and open. The fact that he was sold by the officials that the plane did "this" and the 1/3 front went "there" blah blah, is a whole different matter.
The fact remains that the photographed evidence does not match the official story.

On that matter, I remember seeing a photograph from USGS taken in 1994, of the scar on the ground where flight 93 allegedly crashed. I tried searching USGS website, but couldn't find anything. Can anyone verify the source and date of that photo? This could be another smoking gun.
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QUOTE (Swing Dangler @ Aug 29 2008, 12:30 PM)
I don't recall seeing a front 1/3 of the plane in the woods from the alleged impact. How did he arrive at that conclusion? If it banked 90 degrees and flipped the front end, we would expect to see wing spars, aircraft skin, tail sections etc. scattered all over the place. Shouldn't we also see a massive jet engine and clearly identifiable parts laying around?

He sounds like he is a parrot ( no debris elsewhere despite numerous reports) trying to cover up a possible shoot-down scenario.

apparently the front 1/3 of the plane is supposed to account for all the little pieces of debris scattered about. if wish i would have been able to scan some of the photos i looked at there. there are more shattered little pieces than we've ever seen publicly. still nothing that would make you say 'oh thats this part of the plane' but still a more significant amount of debris.

the 90 degrees is in reference to the wings i believe. the wings were vertical to the ground and then the plane came in at a 40 degree angle with the right wing tip hitting first is how i took that explanation.

moving indian lake to be in the direction of the blast trajectory when it is indeed the opposite is very troubling to say the least. and then he started to argue with me about it......lol
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QUOTE (Oouthere @ Aug 31 2008, 12:43 AM)
Possible shoot down scenario? Is there any other way to explain the debris field located 8 miles away? IMO, that's a given.

Rich

not unless you believe fire can lift paper way high in the air without burning to allow it and other small pieces of debris to land 8 miles away.......

blast trajectory = northwest direction
extra debris fields = northeast direction
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QUOTE (skeptic @ Aug 31 2008, 12:40 PM)
Actually, to me he sounded quite honest and open. The fact that he was sold by the officials that the plane did "this" and the 1/3 front went "there" blah blah, is a whole different matter.
The fact remains that the photographed evidence does not match the official story.

i took wally as being honest albeit at times hot headed. i suppose enough harassment will have that effect on you though. if anything he was duped as it seems the fbi allegedly recovered a lot the remains and brought them in to him. none of them documented properly either. his account is more consistent with the physical evidence and less consistent with the official story.



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On that matter, I remember seeing a photograph from USGS taken in 1994, of the scar on the ground where flight 93 allegedly crashed. I tried searching USGS website, but couldn't find anything. Can anyone verify the source and date of that photo? This could be another smoking gun.


its not the same location and the ditch runs N-S while the 2001 wings run E-W. not that they couldn't be a different ditch just that they're not what was photographed in 94.
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Posted: Aug 31 2008, 10:15 AM


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Thanks Domenick, and excellent! work.
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Domenick DiMaggio CIT
Posted: Sep 1 2008, 08:24 PM


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thank you!
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QUOTE (Domenick DiMaggio CIT @ Aug 31 2008, 08:24 AM)
QUOTE (Swing Dangler @ Aug 29 2008, 12:30 PM)
I don't recall seeing a front 1/3 of the plane in the woods from the alleged impact. How did he arrive at that conclusion? If it banked 90 degrees and flipped the front end, we would expect to see wing spars, aircraft skin, tail sections etc. scattered all over the place. Shouldn't we also see a massive jet engine and clearly identifiable parts laying around?

He sounds like he is a parrot ( no debris elsewhere despite numerous reports) trying to cover up a possible shoot-down scenario.

apparently the front 1/3 of the plane is supposed to account for all the little pieces of debris scattered about. if wish i would have been able to scan some of the photos i looked at there. there are more shattered little pieces than we've ever seen publicly. still nothing that would make you say 'oh thats this part of the plane' but still a more significant amount of debris.

the 90 degrees is in reference to the wings i believe. the wings were vertical to the ground and then the plane came in at a 40 degree angle with the right wing tip hitting first is how i took that explanation.

moving indian lake to be in the direction of the blast trajectory when it is indeed the opposite is very troubling to say the least. and then he started to argue with me about it......lol

Now a shoot down of the plane would explain for the most part the lack of significant debris at the impact site. I suppose you need the self-drilling Boeing to cover up for the lack of debris.

Now did all the alleged passengers fall out of the plane after the shoot down?

This would explain the lack of bodies and people at the crash site I suppose. The evidence implicating the hijackers is brought to the scene.

The angle of impact is chalked up to a passenger struggle when in reality it is from an engine being blown off causing the roll over. Got to sell the story of the passengers to cover for the shoot down.

The UAV is there to track potential witnesses on the ground, the site, etc.

The white corporate jet is anyone's guess. I would suggest a cover story for any fighters that may have been seen over the area..."naww, no F-16s, it was a corporate jet" or as a follow up to the dastardly deed.

Thoughts?
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Posted: Sep 27 2008, 10:40 AM


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This was a very hard interview to do, I could tell. Great work guys!

After watching all the Pentagon videos, I was wondering if you would do a similar round of interviews in Shanksville. I'm sure A LOT of info is still out there!

I watched the Susan McElwain 40 min. interview and then this one (40 min.) right after.

Now, I'm no psychologist, but she seemed very open and honest, where as he seemed, besides annoyed, uncomfortable, which could be a sign of dishonesty. Only on certain subjects, like Indian Like and such.

Didn't Popular Mechanics say that there were DNA remains for the terrorists, thus we had prove, that they did it (or was is another plane than United 93?)? He clearly deducts that the remaining DNA remains must be from the 4 hijackers, but that's not very relevant since no comparison has ever been made.

Keep up the great work guys! smile.gif

The Susan interview, in and by itself, is evidence of a cover up, there's no two ways about it. And the "have faith in your government" FBI guy, unbelievable.

/Martin
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