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Title: 3D Max
Description: Who else thinks the program sucks??


TifaLockhart777 - November 15, 2004 11:42 PM (GMT)
Dude I so can not stand this program! Day in and day out for the past year and then some have I had to put up with this damn program. I love the fact that you get some really good animation done and then you go to save and it's all like "Nope not gonna save that for you, I think I'm going to fatally error and distroy and corupt your files as much as I can to the point where they aren't usable at all" :huh: WTF is up with that crap!! :angry: I don't know about you but it pisses me off to no end! When the madness stop??!!!! WHEN!!?!!!!! :wacko:

Sorry peeps, I just had to vent that and get it off my chest <_< :blink:

Arj and Poopy - November 16, 2004 01:53 AM (GMT)
I was going to check this out - is 3D Max that bad? Have you got a dodgy copy or what?

TifaLockhart777 - November 19, 2004 01:51 PM (GMT)
It's not that I have a dodgy copy, my school has it. The program does that cause it can't calculate sometimes and just says "I'm gonna turn off now". If you want a better 3D program is Maya, so I've been told. I haven't gotten to use it yet, and probably won't for a few months untill I have to take the class. 3D Max just is a finicky program, they never really get the bugs worked out of it even after they put newer versions out every year.

turtle - November 19, 2004 02:21 PM (GMT)
If yas are talking bouts animation

i sugest you get macromedia flash mx

or if your talking about a program you can make programs with then vb 5

Turtle

TifaLockhart777 - November 20, 2004 03:58 PM (GMT)
turtle, Flash is a great program. But it only really deals more with the 2D aspect of animation. 3D Max does exactly what the title implies. It's a 3D animation program, very different from Flash. And more tempermental. How ever if I was doing a 2D piece of animation then I might use Flash. But it's generall used for mostly website purposes. I.E> Arj and Poopy's site (which I think is just great by the way :lol: ) I know the 2D program that we use to do pencil tests at school is called Digicel. Nice program too, however the equipment needed for it is mad expensive :wacko:

thestrandedmoose - November 20, 2004 09:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (TifaLockhart777 @ Nov 19 2004, 01:51 PM)
It's not that I have a dodgy copy, my school has it. The program does that cause it can't calculate sometimes and just says "I'm gonna turn off now". If you want a better 3D program is Maya, so I've been told. I haven't gotten to use it yet, and probably won't for a few months untill I have to take the class. 3D Max just is a finicky program, they never really get the bugs worked out of it even after they put newer versions out every year.

Maya is a much better program, yet way more expensive and pretty hard to use. I don't recommend getting into it unless you're serious about it. I might take some classes. Working for a video game or movie would be pretty cool. I prefer flash though. More creatvie etc. Bryce is good too

TifaLockhart777 - November 21, 2004 04:04 PM (GMT)
Yeah thestrandedmoose Maya, I've been told is better, and from most people, other classmates that is, it's easier to use. I have to take several classes for it to get my degree, but I have to wait untill I get a few more prerequisites before I do take any class dealing with Maya. Also, believe me I know the programs are mad expensive, that's the thing that sux about my field of study, the expenses. I mean if I don't want to eat or have a place to live I might be able afford a full verison of it after I work my ass off, and then have to pay a ton of licencing fees from there on out. Sometimes I wonder what the hell I was thinking when I got into this whole animation thing to begin with. :blink: Personally I prefer 2D over 3D. :lol:

thestrandedmoose - November 24, 2004 12:23 AM (GMT)
Do you plan on taking any classes at Gnomon? DHIMA? FullSail? Any of those? I kinda wanna go to Gnomon in my Jr. highschool year. It's not as good as Fullsail, but I'm in California, and thas in Florida

jkeslens - November 24, 2004 02:31 AM (GMT)
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TifaLockhart777 - November 24, 2004 03:45 PM (GMT)
Well thestrandedmoose I got to an Art Institute in the North East, so any of those schools you listed are out of the question. I'm getting me degree in Media Arts and Animation, that's both 2D and 3D. I still have a year and ahalf left (that's full year, like quarters, not semisters) of classes left to take before I graduate. In about a quarter I am supposed to take Maya classes, but currently it's just 3D max <_<


Yeah, from what I've seen Maya is and waesome program jkeslens. I've also been told it's a much easier program to work with, user interface wise. Thanx for the info on Maya PLE, I'll have to tell ym other animation frineds about that :D So is the site www.maya.com or is it something else???

jkeslens - November 24, 2004 07:03 PM (GMT)
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thestrandedmoose - November 25, 2004 05:04 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (jkeslens @ Nov 24 2004, 07:03 PM)
The URL to get the Maya PLE is Maya PLE . I hope that is helpful and best of luck in 3D. -JK

I have it already. The problem is that its limited in what it can do. You can't render without a template over it telling you it is the learning edition, and you can't import the files to other 3d programs, ie. Bryce. I do recommend it however. You can learn the basics at a low price and you can get good enough at it. You will not get any actual fully final products from it, due to the rendering restrictions, but it's worth the money to learn the tools

jkeslens - November 25, 2004 04:04 PM (GMT)
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thestrandedmoose - November 25, 2004 10:11 PM (GMT)
yeah I know. I'm just dissapointed cuz I wanted to use it to make some cel-shaded art. O well. Time to embark on a turkeyhuntingfeast

Mr. Nurbs - November 29, 2004 07:26 PM (GMT)
I have been using 3dsmax for about a year now and use final render for some cartoon like effects...It's really good if you want to use it for 3d intergration with flash or something like that.....I do agree with some of the bug problems though....Sometimes having the wrong rendering settings will send Max into an epileptic fit and freeze on you sometimes even taking the file with it... :blink:

jkeslens - November 29, 2004 08:08 PM (GMT)
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colin77 - November 30, 2004 03:58 PM (GMT)
Hi,

Been in the games industry for 7 years, creating character and animation. i use max and have used maya, Max is unstable to say the least, but like most 3D softs can do the job well, Maya is better and Cheaper (thestrandedmoose-not more expensive than max!) and the architecture is well defined making for less conflicts within the program.

the machine you would need for a 3d app needs a super fast processor for rendering and lots of physical ram for animating in the viewport fast. a good graphics card is a must but for max quadro is what you would need. after that harddrive size, sound card, monitor is preference really.

If you want to learn maya, everything is in the PLE tutorials and help files. if you make characters etc you can take screengrabs to showcase your work. if you make animation you can most likely take it to a company at an interview and have them load the file onto their full maya version to view it! or if a degree is what ur after learning the PLE would allow you to skip the Basic level to intermediate.

A question for all concerned though! i've learnt 2d animation 10 years ago on a 3 year course and got into 3D cause it looked cool, but now i want back. what don't you like about 2D that would make 3D more interesting. i have my problems with the game industry but 3D is less free than 2D. for example you can be like Mudbubble.com and be your own boss and company all with one program, 3D is far more involved and subjective which makes working for yourself very tough as you keep getting sent back to the drawing board when the client sees something new like the incredibles etc. so again 'why woulld you want to leave?'

Excuse the long mail
Col

jkeslens - November 30, 2004 09:36 PM (GMT)
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