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 Iranian treatment of refugees
Israel
Posted: Jul 31 2008, 01:02 PM


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The Iranian handling of refugees within its borders are unethical and are a mockery of international law, we demand that the World Court compensates the Iraqi and Afghan refugees as well as punish the Iranian government.

((OOC: Short but i will post something later on...))
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United States
Posted: Jul 31 2008, 02:00 PM


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The defence please.
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Iran
Posted: Jul 31 2008, 02:03 PM


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Iran has sent this statement in its defense:

We have not intentionally brought harm to any refugees. Our soldiers only acted when the refugees became violent. As the host country, we have every right to decide how long these assylum seekers may stay in our country. In light of the stem rust crisis and the rise in food prices, we simply can no longer afford to care for over 1 million refugees. We have every right to ask them to return home. We have given them the right to apply for Iranian citizenship if they please.
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Israel
Posted: Jul 31 2008, 03:28 PM


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OOC: I'm not bringing this case up as Israel but rather as a random human right activists lawyer dude..

Excuses, excuses.. Perhaps the reason as to why the refugees "became" violent was due to the fact that Iran mistreated them, by denying them residence and citizenship ? Iran's brutal actions against the refugees begun way before its soldiers killed innocent civilians.
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Iran
Posted: Jul 31 2008, 03:33 PM


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Excuse me? Iran fed these refugees and gave them shelter, in some cases for over FIFTEEN years. We simply cannot take care of them anymore, and if they do not want to apply for citizenship and EARN a living, then they can return to their homes, which in many cases are safe.
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Israel
Posted: Jul 31 2008, 03:43 PM


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That doesn't explain why two refugees were killed and several suffered significant injuries. Why don't refugees living in Europe or the US get killed by the armed forces ?
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Iran
Posted: Aug 1 2008, 10:49 AM


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"Our soldiers only responded to violence. Keep in mind one of our men was seriously injured as well. What about places like Israel or the refugees that attempt to get from North Korea to China. Their actions are harldy noble and yet no legal action is persued against them. We're only sending home refugees we can no longer care for."
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Israel
Posted: Aug 1 2008, 12:28 PM


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Just because other countries abuse refugees doesn't give Iran the right to do the same, the reason as to why this was brought up to the court is that this case was the most extreme of all.
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Iran
Posted: Aug 3 2008, 12:19 AM


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OOC: I'm out of defenses unsure.gif

IC: We wish to know the ruling in this case.
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China
Posted: Aug 3 2008, 12:59 AM


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I find in favour of the defence. The refugees are given a chance to contribute. They are only thrown out if they refuse. Furthermore, the contries are much more stable than when the refugees emmigrated.
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Iran
Posted: Aug 3 2008, 01:03 AM


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OOC: The US and Russia still need to weigh in I beleive.
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United Kingdom
Posted: Aug 3 2008, 05:07 AM


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QUOTE (China @ Aug 3 2008, 12:59 AM)
I find in favour of the defence. The refugees are given a chance to contribute. They are only thrown out if they refuse. Furthermore, the contries are much more stable than when the refugees emmigrated.


OOC: Alright im throwing this inas another random prosecutor.

China first of all i strongly suggest you reconsider your descision.

throwing it in that Iranis forcefully removing the reffugees that it accepted, which i belive goes against international law in dealing with the treatment of reffugees, if a country accepts them they cant forcefully remove them unless they have commited a crime. Furthermore thehome countries are still far from acceptably stable for the people to return, we are talking Millions of reffugees returning home. Do you know the situation that woyuld cause? Iraq and Afganistan has barley enough food to feed the people currently living there, Iran can afford to feed them, theyve got the money, they took the obligation to after accepting the refugees. By Iran forcig these people home its making a bad situation worse by creating a humanitarian crisis.

and in the reports own words

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It is unknown how many of Iran's 1.2 Million refugees will actually apply for citizenship, but about 450,000 are eligable.


Aside from the citizenshipprosess being a lengthy onethe people could be froced out and theyre lives put in danger whilke waiting to be let back in

Also in the report was

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The law did not give citizenship to children born to refugees in Iran.


Dispite the fact that under International law those children are citizens of Iran.

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United States
Posted: Aug 3 2008, 12:08 PM


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I find in favour of the prosecution.
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Russia
Posted: Aug 3 2008, 10:43 PM


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Under international law Iran can expel the refugees if they can provided they were a threat the national security or public order, can Iran do this?
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Iran
Posted: Aug 4 2008, 02:07 AM


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They are a threat to public order. Set aside the fact that there is constant rioting. We are feeding these people for free during the middle of a stem rust epidemic and a massive increase in food prices internationally. Feeding these refugees means we run the risk of not having enough food to feed working Iranian citizens, which would lead to a further increase in prices and create a panic.
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United Kingdom
Posted: Aug 4 2008, 06:07 AM


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QUOTE (Iran @ Aug 4 2008, 02:07 AM)
They are a threat to public order. Set aside the fact that there is constant rioting. We are feeding these people for free during the middle of a stem rust epidemic and a massive increase in food prices internationally. Feeding these refugees means we run the risk of not having enough food to feed working Iranian citizens, which would lead to a further increase in prices and create a panic.

Does Iran have evidence of this constant rioting? the only rioting weve confirmed was a result of the reffugeese being forcefuly removed. If Iran has having such trouble supportingthe reffugees it should have consulted the UN.
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Iran
Posted: Aug 4 2008, 02:00 PM


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OOC: And with absolutley nothing else to defend himself with, the Iranian lawyer sulks and awaits the results.
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Russia
Posted: Aug 4 2008, 11:08 PM


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My judgement is split.
In the case of Iraq vs Iran I find in favour of Iran, as Iraq has not signed the United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees so it doesn't have the right to appeal against Iran actions in accoprdance with it. (I think).
In the case of Iran vs Afghanistan I find in favour of Afghanistan.
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United Kingdom
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 01:37 AM


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QUOTE (Russia @ Aug 4 2008, 11:08 PM)
My judgement is split.
In the case of Iraq vs Iran I find in favour of Iran, as Iraq has not signed the United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees so it doesn't have the right to appeal against Iran actions in accoprdance with it. (I think).
In the case of Iran vs Afghanistan I find in favour of Afghanistan.

But has Iran has signed it? If so they got against the very treatythey sighned, a violation ofUN law.
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Iran
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 12:00 PM


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QUOTE (United Kingdom @ Aug 5 2008, 09:37 PM)
QUOTE (Russia @ Aug 4 2008, 11:08 PM)
My judgement is split.
In the case of Iraq vs Iran I find in favour of Iran, as Iraq has not signed the United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees so it doesn't have the right to appeal against Iran actions in accoprdance with it. (I think).
In the case of Iran vs Afghanistan I find in favour of Afghanistan.

But has Iran has signed it? If so they got against the very treatythey sighned, a violation ofUN law.

We have signed it, but Iraq has not. Thus we have the right to return their refugees as they aren't a member of the treaty that gives international protection to their refugees.

Furthermore, the Convention defines a refugee as
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"A person who owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country; or who, not having a nationality and being outside the country of his former habitual residence as a result of such events, is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to return to it.."


Because of the change of government in Iraq and Afghanistan, there is no more killing because of religion or political opinion. Thus, by the UN's definition, they can be returned to their homes.
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Iran
Posted: Aug 11 2008, 02:49 PM


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OOC: Hath thy thread been forgoteth?
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United Kingdom
Posted: Aug 11 2008, 05:46 PM


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"The situation in these countries whiile more stable are still not at acceptable levels many of these people will face sever danger if they go back
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Iran
Posted: Aug 16 2008, 12:42 AM


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"So after 9 years of outside intervention these nations are not safe? We have kept some of these refugees in our borders for nearly 20 years, feeding and sheltering them for free. If we are to continue harboring them in the forseeable future, they will have to find a way to feed themselves. Iranian food prices have already risen almost 60% thanks to the stem rust crisis. How can we feed millions of refugees when lower-class families in Iran are at risk of not having food for themselves."
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Iran
Posted: Aug 31 2008, 06:15 PM


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Iran
Posted: Sep 11 2008, 11:16 PM


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OOC: So, will I ever get punished for my wicked deeds or what?
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Greece
Posted: Sep 12 2008, 02:20 AM


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OOC: I think everyone's distracted by the whole impending world war deal.
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Russia
Posted: Sep 12 2008, 11:33 PM


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OOC: Basically you are off the hook on Iraq due to the ruling, Afghanistan you are off the hook as the UN can't be bothered to make a resolution to enforce the ruling as Russia/China will veto it any way.
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